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  1. My mind not working again, she was 10 when she went missing so was around in Mangrove River in 2011.
  2. Yes absolutely great to see Buddy!!!!? I don't see anything wrong with Irene calling Grace Gracey and if Tori has a problem with it she can tell Irene so. Anyways with Luc Irene did have a family connection she hasn't with Grace. Cancer wasn't mentioned but the word tumour was and it's not known if it's benign. I can see Justin's reluctance to have the op and we all know all ops carry risks. It could leave him paralysed and he remembers how it was for Mason. But on the other side of the coin the longer he leaves it the worse this tumour could get and the more riskier the operation. Yes Bella had a mum but she was under Ross' thumb too so not the same as Nik. Just what on earth is a 'money shot?? You can be too picky about things. It doesn't matter who thought of the idea of luring Bella back, but Nik did a good job, I think Bella was getting towards the end of her tether anyway and I noticed she had hitched a ride back. I think the 'grown ups' did a good job keeping out of it and letting Nik talk Bella into going back. Colby was mightily relived when she walked into Yabbie Creek cop shop and I'm undecided if Angelo was pleased or not as it meant he couldn't put any more pressure on Colby. Just my humble opinion but I think Bella will be fine with her interview, didn't stop Colby trying to elbow his way into it so he could 'advise' her. He could have claimed she's a vulnerable adult so would need someone with her but I think someone else would be appointed to do that task. Had to smile when Angelo closed the blinds on him and Bella. Bella was six when she went missing and she's 18 now so I make that she would last have been in Mangrove River in 2008, she's been in the bay for two years. Colby did express surprise when Angelo said when they first met he used to own Salt when it was called Angelo's. I wasn't that surprised when Taylor, who didn't seem that averse to flirting with Colby, said Angelo hadn't talked much about his time in the bay. Colby would be better off asking discreet questions of Irene or Alf.
  3. Seeing as most people in the bay know Colby was a River Boy not much point in his hiding his tatts. Hell it took long enough for Angelo it discover Colby was an ex RB! Before he gets on his high horse though he ought not to forget his own history with them. Could be either Colby was way down the RB food chain when Brax was in charge or he'd already left so wouldn't know who Angelo was. We first saw the Braxton's in 2011. Now he does know he's blocked Colby doing any digging. What was Colby doing by the way, from what I could read, paused screen having recorded episode, it looked like a statement form, undated, with Colby's name on it and mentioning a bar room brawl. Was that Ross's mug shot? Seriously how much does dirt, sorry, info does Colby expect to get from Taylor, Angelo may not have told her much about his time in the bay, he'd be better off subtly quizzing the older members, Alf, Roo, Irene or Marilyn. He, Angelo, certainly doesn't seem the type to talk about his work when he gets home. Or he could do what Angelo did, look up old newspaper reports on his time in the bay last time round. Perfectly OK Red, as long as it is OK for me to say a woman has done well for herself by snagging a good looking guy.? Never mind Alf dragging Justin away from the acid with his bare hands how about the fumes, Justin only got a whiff of it earlier and started coughing but it didn't appear to affect Alf. He did the right thing by dousing Justin's arm with water and hopefully those overalls were thick enough to have protected him even more, the burns didn't look as bad as they might have. It did look like his back went into spasm maybe causing him to loose feeling in his feet and he collapsed. Of course, once again breaking hospital protocols Tori ends up treating him as she is the only doctor there. Is the loss of feeling in his feet connected with his headaches and back ache? How is Irene creepy? Surely not the 'have a rusk , yum, yum' and pretending to eat it thing with Grace? Note you didn't include Leah in the creepy person group. One heck of a coincidence - back in Angelo's first appearance in the bay he of course knew Jack Holden who was married to Martha Mackenzie who is Alf and Martha's granddaughter. Now we have the Martha who she was named after and we also have a MacKenzie. Spooky eh?
  4. Agreed - Angelo didn't murder Jack, he fired at someone in the dark who had shot at him and he hit Jack who as usual was doing his off piste investigating. I did read somewhere it may not have been him who killed Jack hence his re-instatement. ? I know a lot of people have done bad things, but some have redeemed themselves, so I guess it comes down to whether you like the character or not enough to be able to forgive them. It's already been gone into about Colby having been an ex River Boy, emphasis on the word ex. His career was on the line there for a while but he convinced McCarthy he wouldn't lie for any of them. Bella could have let Nikau think he'd talked her round then gone off anyway, she is used to doing a runner at short notice, but we could have this debate for ever and still get nowhere. But as you said Red, she's gone off on her own now anyway. One big difference between her and Nik Nephlim is Nik had his mum around during all his conflict all Bella had was Ross who just filled her mind with his own twisted view of the world. Nik's dad may have been a bad guy, but he did love his son and from what Nik has told Bella they had good times together. OK Jai has blond curls, but so did I at his age but went dark around his age, so no reason to suspect Dean wasn't a blond baby/toddler. Three of my great nephews were very blond when little but all have dark hair now though you can't see much of it as it's cut so short. How long was John in the Diner, seemed like all day. He would have been a bit stiff with all that sitting. Bit hurtful for him, Marilyn bursting it with news about Own and suddenly noticing him and saying "Oh I didn't see you there". John He's obviously doing a lot better if he's reduced Amber's hours and now he's back in his domain ready to lord it over everyone. Did seem odd that Red now I think about it, would have helped Owen understand why Roo, Marilyn, Alf and Ryder were looking at him like he'd landed from Mars. Cameron Daddo must have made an impression on TPTB if they decided to create a new character just for him, was that before they decided Evan was to die or after? If Ryder is right and Owen is Evan's unknown twin, he will have some traits in common. I was so relieved they've gone this way as actually I had the awful feeling they were going down a route we'd only just gone down. Again, if they were both adopted, see assuming nothing yet, very unusual twins to be separated, seems quite cruel in fact. They certainly had different lifestyles. Methinks Roo fell in love with Evan and he may have felt the same which would totally explain her feeling so uncomfortable around Owen. Rest of the bay are going to get a shock too, we've all heard people say so and so is the dead spit of so and so but when we meet them they're not really, but this time! Odd scene at the hospital, unless that is building us up for the aftermath for what happens to Justin. Tori and Jasmine seemed comfortable enough with each other, Tori even got away with mentioning Leah was baby sitting Grace. Dragging up the AVO did the terms of it exclude them doing the same shift at the hospital, though they could avoid each other even if they were? Well you can't say there weren't enough clues that that canister of hydraulic acid wasn't going to 'play' a part in future scenes! Along with more signs of Justin's memory lapses, his back playing him again the writing was on the wall. His 'forgetting' to put his mask on at first before pouring out the fluid may have just been him not concentrating but worrying. Then his back spasming causing him to black out, knocking over the canister with it's contents dribbling out. Thankfully Alf comes to the rescue.
  5. Nik thinking his mum had slept with Roo would have upset him but it was Ben and she didn't. Nik is, maybe, three years older than Bella, hardly a generation. Each of our characters have had different upbringings which can affect how you behave. Bella in some senses is way older than Nik or Ziggy even. Nik can act like a real dork but I wouldn't say he's not nice, he loves his mum for one thing. I'm not saying he's an angel or perfect - no-one is - but once again upbringing can influence you. Gemma was the most, from what we learnt about her, was the most law abiding, didn't explain why she refused to have her dabs taken. He had a loving but law breaking dad, one uncle ended up inside for eight years and the other was prone to disappearing. Bella, well we all know the upbringing she had, took her ages to act like any normal 16 year would, two years on and she's much better, well before all this blew up anyway. Her conditioning has kicked back in so gone to ground as that is how to 'keep safe' Of course it had to happen - one of soaps coincidences - Nik reaches the road, flags down an approaching car and what do you now it's Ari, Tane and Mac! Natch the first thing Nik is run which was pretty pointless as Ari and Tane soon caught up with him. Mac was needed, as she keeps pointing out she does know Bella, and yes the three musketeers may have calmed down eventually, but she is still the more level headed. I only hope they don't go shouting out her name expecting her to appear, cos she won't, if anything that would push her into keep hiding - more Ross training. I must say Jai is a darling, those blond curls. A sensible decision - imo - for not introducing Dean as his dad right away. Let them get to know each other first and see if they like each other, though I do agree she shouldn't wait too long, but it has to be done the right way. Seems playing footie is in the genes, and appears Jai does know his dad played footie so Amber has told Jai something about his dad. Jai did get some free ice cream by going to Salt. Ziggy was bound to have a twinge seeing Dean so relaxed around Jai, but I don't believe she has any worry about him wanting to get back with Amber. I thought that at the very same time Marilyn and Roo were holding the séance and Evan wasn't appearing 'Evan' turning up at the surf club and shocking Alf and Ryder was brilliant! After they got over their initial shock they bounded up the stairs after him to explain they weren't a pair of nutters. He was completely nonplussed when he saw Evan's photo on Ryder's phone. That last scene was so well done, the look of stunned surprise, shock even on both Marilyn and Roo's faces were a picture! It may now explain what I thought was an error in some TV mags.?
  6. First off Nik didn't 'drag' Bella off to his uncle Tane's. You're making it sound like he threw her over his shoulder, then threw her into the car and took her against her will, she was very willing if I remember. He did look after her and made no moves on her. I don't think he's the same age as Bella or Ryder, but he's certainly not as old as Amber, Dean or Willow. Sure he was more savvy about Jade than Ryder was leading us to think he was older than he seemed, but then not long ago he confessed to Ryder he hadn't much to do with girls which was why he was asking his advice. His home life may not have been the most secure, Gemma was it seemed the moral compass out of them all, dad into robbing banks, his eldest uncle in prison, his youngest uncle disappearing at the drop of a hat at the first sign of trouble. But both Ari and Tane do care for him, isn't that why they are looking for him to bring him home? Nik rebelled against Ari because he was the more strict one and in his eyes trying to replace his dad. Ari didn't want Nik following his dad's path and either ending up in jail or dead. What advice would Mikaere have given Nik if he had been alive, would Nik have listened? Tane, it seems, was also in and out of his life hence the mystery and excitement about him to a young impressionable lad. Tane did seem, when we first saw him was the one appearing to be the bad influence on him, hence Ari warning him off him. We all know how the conversations Colby had with Bella were going, he was causing her to panic more. Nik did try and make Bella stay, but her mind was made up so in his mind going with her made sense, she'd have someone with her. A single, young girl on her own, open to all kinds of dangers. She may have thought with her past experiences she'd be OK It doesn't work that way. I may have seen it wrong, but wasn't it Bella's idea that she was ready for them to sleep together not Nik's, he asked several times if she was sure. It was also him who decided they needed to get help to fix the car when she kept insisting they couldn't ask for help from anyone, ever which had to be Ross' influence there. She would have it drummed into her from an early age not to trust anyone but him. I think Tane and Mac have reached an understanding, she recognised it must be awkward for him being in the same car as her and Ari. Liked the anecdote he told her about him, Ari and Mikaere being stuffed in the back seat of the family car with him stuck in the middle and Ari and Mikaere teasing him. At least Willow telling Colby about Dean having a son got him off the hook for not going to look for Bella and we had the usual make up between the pair. Slightly awkward talk between Ziggy and Amber about Jai, but as Amber made clear she wasn't expecting Dean to rehook up with her, she just wanted him to be part of Jai's life. Of course now he has stared school - I'm going for five - he would have heard other kids talk about their dad and wonder where his is. At least he won't have to wait until he is in his 20's before finding out who he is. I'm guessing as Amber was part of their gang back in the day she would have known Karen and the problems she had. I'm wondering if Dean will mention what the real cause was, as that is the main reason why he didn't want kids with Ziggy in case he had inherited her condition. It is something Amber deserves to know. It's good Ziggy is sticking by Dean, who is still getting his head round the news himself. Jasmine is not cured after one session, she knows she has to carry on and she has now recognised it's not about Grace, it's about her abandonment issues and how in a way Robbo abandoned her when he died which she needs to come to terms with first. Do agree Tori is giving very mixed messages to Jasmine. I thought it was entirely in character for Alf to do a disappearing act when Roo and Marilyn started talking all things spiritual. He is such a down to earth character and just didn't want to be there to stop him himself pouring cold water on it. Now, as it is no spoiler, I can safely 'say' I had to laugh when we see Alf's face when Evan's double appears at the Surf Club and he comes out with the line "Hogan's ghost"! No, definitely not Hogan's ghost.
  7. I have read on one site that puts Nik's age as 21, so not a teenager, which I tend to lean towards.
  8. Guess we are going to disagree on our feelings about Nik and Bella Red, I don't think he has really grasped how serious it is, but he soon will. I like them together, he makes her laugh which she hadn't done a lot of before he came along. She may be younger than him, but has a wiser head on her shoulders, he's had a good family around him, not including Tane running off she didn't. No need for such a wild exaggeration, Bella and Ross certainly didn't live on nuts and berries, they had a house even if it was run down. Nik did stop when he realised he had an unexpected passenger and that money of Tane's wouldn't have been legitimately earned, hence the need to hid it. At least having the cash enabled them to get as far away as possible without the need to hitch - in the storyline if not for real due to Co-vid. Wonder which one of them thought of the mountains. It is a beautiful place, be it Blue Mountains or Currawong. What was wrong with a light hearted moment or two? Although still a lovely blue sky you could feel it was colder, or was that just me. They both had had the sense to buy warmer clothes. Pure luck(?) Ari, Tane and Mac stumbled across the same place Nik and Bella had stopped and brought that car. Quite a bit of awkwardness for Tane being so close to Mac and having Ari in the same car, did they drive there or fly? Mac could be right a woman rather than the three men, two she hardly knows would intimidate Bella, she's had enough of men doing that in her life. I'm supposing as he has other things on his mind Colby has let the Parata's leave the area without kicking up a fuss. Perhaps it's both Red.?? I'm guessing Colby doesn't know yet Mac has taken Dean's place, be another reason for him to want to hit Dean. No-one seems to be keeping a two metre distance, Ziggy had her hands on Dean and Willow had hers on Colby. Angelo is still being very patient and understanding and Colby has been thinking on his feet by the excuses he keeps coming up with, though he was right the counsellor couldn't divulge anything said between her/him and Bella. Finally a mention, if brief, of Nicole so I guess that is the end of her, but good to get some loose ends tied up. Penn put Nic through a fair bit. Oh yes the big reveal - from what Amber said it does appear Jai was conceived after Dean came out of prison. I do recall her saying they had a brief fling. I thought though that earlier Willow implied Amber disappeared after the accident.? Of course he's avoiding Ziggy we don't need anymore outsiders knowing about Ross. He would confide in Willow first and how best to break the news. He was still getting his own head around it. In the end he had been backed into a corner and so bit the bullet. Ziggy has no reason to get uptight because (a) it was long before they got even met and (b) Dean has just found out about him so hadn't abandoned Jai. Lucky John was just out of earshot when Amber was telling Willow about jai. Roo and her 'seeing' Evan - could Marilyn be right and Roo did get closer to Evan while they were away.?? He is 'seen' again though.
  9. Angelo's being remarkably generous with the time he's given them to bring Bella in, guess her young age and the fact she is 'seeing a therapist' is part of it. Angelo is a detective and also he isn't personally involved with anyone. Guess as Ryder had done his three days he couldn't be seen on screen being asked about Bella, Nik, of course, has already left town with Bella. Neat way that all the info was gathered, Tane being asked if Bella had been round, then the discovery Nik was missing, Ari also getting quizzed. John wondering why Dean's car was at the Parata's, then filling Amber/Willow in that he'd seen Bella there earlier and noting she'd looked upset, then she'd come back, then later seeing Nik leaving with a rucksack. Not that he was spying on them of course.? The discovery Nik had stolen Tane's money put a whole new perspective on it. Good bit of deducing that they would have to pay with cash to get a flight anywhere and Colby was able to use the fact he was a cop to get the information as where they be going. Apart from all the accusations being flung around by Dean, Colby, Tane and Ari it was agreed it was better Nik was with Bella so she wasn't alone. Dean isn't keeping Ziggy in the dark to 'protect' her, he's dong it so she isn't another innocent being dragged into the whole mess. This place Nik and Bella are heading for seems to be out of state so has Colby relaxed Tane and Ari's ban to leave? I was puzzled as to why Amber has waited until now to reveal Dean has a son! The fact he is 'helping' Colby again and Bella is involved - again, could be the reason why. Her look once she'd announced her news made it very clear as to who the daddy was. Would we be right to assume he is about 10 or so? Hope it is family and not the odd babysitter looking after him seeing the state she is some mornings. Justin had a memory lapse again, he'd forgotten he'd ordered spag bog just an hour earlier. So far, nothing to worry about, but suppose he has one while looking after Grace. Was Roo's distraction when chatting to Alf "I'm fine", due to what/who see she saw later connected?
  10. Um did I miss where Bella had grown up enough to tell Colby she didn't depend on him as much as she did before? Wasn't that the point of going to therapy and her letter and her saying to him she wanted him to be a brother not a parent? I didn't hear her begging Colby not to give himself up as she couldn't live without him, like she would have last year. How is Colby 'dragging Nikau down, Bella's done that all by herself, Colby would freak if he knew, it's meant to be a 'family' secret. She's told Nik everything and sworn him to secrecy putting him under pressure. She is also the one who has decided she'd screw things up in the interview and has decided to run to protect Colby, Dean and Willow. Had to smile as Nik went from 'running away doesn't solve anything', well he'd know, to saying he was going with her, the fact he had Tane's $5000 helped of course, Bella didn't appear to have any sort of funds, remember it was her idea to go on the run NOT Nik's so how is he putting her in danger? Better she wasn't alone, surely? Out of the two Bella, from what she said, would seem to be more equipped to life on the run thanks to Ross. If, as I think, Nik is only 21, he's not too old for Bella, not his fault he looks older. Just who is she supposed to get a balanced view point from as she can't tell anyone the truth. Of course we also have Dean acting shifty around Ziggy, he won't be able to carry that on forever, she's too smart a cookie. All this shutting up the moment she appeared when they were talking about Willow and Bella. I would have liked to have seen Willow's interview to see how she handled it, after all she would only be telling Angelo what Colby and Dean had told her a year ago, that they'd gone looking for Ross and lost him. She had been in hospital at the time having been shot by him. Just an aside and it's been mentioned on the Aus site, how did Colby make the mistake of leaving Ross' driving licence on his body? Seeing as he is a cop wouldn't he have of all people thought to take it off the body and burnt it? Unless because it wasn't pre-planned he panicked and forget about it. Smiled at Alf's bigging up of Nik. Never a good idea to praise someone or get too upbeat about anything that is bound to get the alarm bells ringing, the red flags flying. Tori skipped round the Jasmine situation. with Justin. Great to get a mention of Ava, crumbs a teenager, scary thought. I'd forgotten about Ava being Grace's honorary big sister. My thoughts exactly Red. Just speculation on my part - NOT A SPOLIER - it couldn't be the cancer cluster rearing it's ugly head again could it? He's got odd symptoms, headache, back ache, both which seemed to have eased while he's was away. But then there was him forgetting the rush job, which OK if arranged before he went away, he could have forgotten about, but forgetting he'd told Tori he'd babysit just an hour or two before? That is worrying.
  11. I don't think anyone has said he's a innocent of a victim, except of child abuse in the latter instance. That pulled Colby up when Dean told him what Bella had said! He was really going too far with Bella though, Angelo, I hope, wouldn't be as hard on her as he was with Colby and Dean. I agree he would be more likely to believe Bella if she was upset than her giving mechanical answers to his questions and not remember things as precisely as Colby and Dean did. Bella having to try and remember everything Colby drilled into her would make it more possible for her to make a mistake, not just a minor gaffe either. As I'd recorded it I played it back, and he did say 'my wife', though thinking about it that shouldn't have made a difference what she told Angelo was for his ears only. Bella did 'use' Colby to get out of her interview. It was at her insistence he didn't confess the last time as she couldn't manage without him. All seems to escalate today with Bella, seemingly about to tell Nik everything so dragging a total innocent into it and no secret as they appear to be going on the run along with Tane's money. Ryder seemed to be being pushed out of it again with Bella and Nik, but Nik can relate more as he his dad died violently too. The photos hadn't been all taken while Tori was in her coma then, Jasmine had decided to air brush Tori out of the picture and Grace's life, so Tori's reaction was understandable, it did all start innocently before, then Jasmine went all The Hand That Rocks The Cradle. It's not been said but has the AVO been lifted, would Tori be able to do that seeing as she was the one who got raised it in the first place? Not Jas' fault Willow had much more pressing things on her mind when she tried to apologise and say she'd be there for her so wasn't concentrating. There's a surprise - someone, especially a young girl not living with Irene!?
  12. I know you don't like him Red, and I may have been sucked in, but I did feel sorry for Colby - there was definitely more to his history with Ross than he has let on before. Dean and Willow knew what he had gone through though. Ross wasn't a victim, at least not an innocent one. Ross was the criminal, he'd hurt many people in his time, he murdered Colby's dad and his mum, letting Bella think she'd run out on her. He would have killed either Bella or Chelsea, maybe both, shot Willow without a second thought. Watching it back, again, Colby did hesitate but then Ross made that jibe about Bella and the red mist descended. If Colby had been admitted to hospital on many occasions due to what Ross had done to him where were child care services? It was a mistake, imo, for Colby's and later on Dean's account to be exactly the same as the one they originally gave, little things would have been forgotten, the police would allow for that. Angelo is one good detective, gave nothing away, but you could hear the cogs turning. True comments though from both Colby and Dean Ross had made many, many enemies and why would he have been buried in the quarry? Either it was a slip by the script writers or a ploy by Colby to find out what Chelsea said but he called her 'my wife' when she isn't anymore. If Angelo has done his homework on Colby he must know he's an ex River Boy, small niggle I know, but considering his history with them be interesting to see if it affects his judgement of Colby and Dean. Seems Willow and Bella are up next. Although nice to see Ryder, Bella and Nikau together it was strained because of what Bella is going though but can't tell them about. Nik did seem more aware that something was wrong with her than Ryder did. Jasmine seems to be fixating on Tori this time all because she hasn't texted her about the baby book she gave her which just has photos of her, Robbo and Grace in and she thinks she's upset about it. Well it was your book Jas so would only have those photos in and if I remember correctly they were taken while Tori was in a coma. OK Willow turns up late because of her hangover, then with very short notice ditches her afternoon class to go and see Colby. Good argument on both sides but Jasmine did leave Willow in the lurch, leaving her to run the whole place with no back up, refused to answer just one call to say she was OK. Wasn't just Irene Jasmine ghosted. It does appear for there to be a theme for the gym to have it's owner and or manager doing a runner from time to time. Robbo did it quite a few times leaving Mason and Willow in charge, now Jasmine has done/is doing it. They certainly have very patient clients. Someone, more likely Irene, sometime has to mention Nicole. Was Nicole ever one of Irene's housemates? PS. I know a secret.??
  13. At least Bella was able to give Colby the heads up there was a cop asking questions. All, or most of the men in any soap,drama, do that, the whole "I've got this under control" thing when it's blatantly obvious they haven't. Threw Colby a tad when Angelo said he'd already spoken to Chelsea, had to have got him thinking what she had told Angelo, he just needs to work out how to take things forward, warn Dean who was his accomplice and Willow who's an accessory after the fact. Nice touch seeing Angelo back in the restaurant that used to be his, wonder what he thought of the changes. It does need to be resolved how he got back in the police force if just to settle our curiosity. A small aside Colby had his tats covered so unless he already knows for another source Angelo is still unaware Colby used to be a River Boy. I liked we got an on screen re-union with Bella and Ryder so they were able to comfort each other, even if Bella didn't need it in quite the same way Ryder did. It did show what a good relationship they have. Jasmine has done bit of a u turn, by realising she needs to sort herself out first before she can think of being close to Grace again, wonder if that was the reason she gave the album to Tori, to stop herself keep looking at it and brooding over it.? She did finally fess up it would have been her and Robbo's 1st Anniversary. Welcome back John, I think. Just because you are feeling better though you still need to take it slow ad not be afraid to ask foe help, won't mean you're anything less of a man. His being driving instructor to Ryder was so him. Was Amber sick or as John hinted 'sick'. Not your normal neighbourly chat between Bella and John but amusing nonetheless and at least she got him a ride to the surf club, Ryder will thank you for that later.? The occasional mentions of Justin's headache and other aches and pains he's getting is I feel sadly building up to something like you feared Red.
  14. Jasmine's last counselling sessions were kind of hijacked by that counsellor - the ex cop - switching it from her problems to Robbo's and hers were forgotten. This counsellor - name not yet known - is good, not too pushy, but got Jasmine to see it's not about Grace but her herself and her feelings of abandonment which didn't get resolved last time. Jasmine did, at first, think a couple of sessions and she'd be OK but was soon put straight. She admitted she felt that by dying Robbo had abandoned her when he'd promised he'd never leave her, interesting to learn she hadn't visited his grave, he did only die a few months ago. I did hope we'd see Jasmine visiting Robbo's grave after she took herself off for a walk. If Irene hadn't mentioned it I would have had forgotten that it would have been Robbo and Jasmine's 1st Anniversary, what a day to have her first counselling session and she never mentioned it to anyone. I think that is why Tori approached her later though still nothing was said. Is Tori breaking the conditions of her own AVO by approaching Jasmine or it is just that Jasmine can't have solo contact with Grace? Marilyn is being jostled into staying at Alf's, though I know it's well meant, and it triggered that well worn "You can stay here as long as you like" line. Naturally, at the moment, she doesn't want to be on her own, but the longer she stays at Alf's the harder it will for her to make the break and get a place of her own. She won't be an idle house guest and will pull her weight, Alf did decline her veggie offering though. That's being ageist Justin - you don't have to be old to need glasses. Let's hope you're wrong Red, the Morgan's don't need any more trauma, they're just getting back on track. Has Ava now been forgotten about now she is back with her mum, I thought there were going to be regular visits? Alf hadn't forgotten about Angelo being kicked out of the police then. It was only nine years ago and he was just an uniformed cop then so he's got back in and been made a detective in that time - that's quick work. Did his superiors decide to send him to the bay as he knew the place or did he volunteer?
  15. It is an interesting turn around with Nik's attitude towards Ari and Tane, he's come to realise and appreciate Ari is the one that has put up with him and his moods and not surprising he'd think Tane was living up (or should that be down) to Ari's experience that when things got tough Tane got going. I don't think Tane liked Nik having such a go at him which maybe why he stayed. I'm glad he felt he was able to confide in Nik, rather sad in a way that the first woman he really falls for is his brother's girlfriend and we don't want to go there again so soon. He said he wouldn't and I'd like to believe him. To be fair Ari and Mac weren't that serious when the flirting started. Mac did say whatever Ari wanted to do for their first date would be fine with her but I can see why Ari would worry that a row boat wouldn't be what she expected. You played that clever girl, pretending you didn't have a clue about fishing with prawns. I did have a feeling she was stringing Ari along, his face when she hooked the first prawn on then cast her line. His face did goggle a bit when she told explained how big Rick's boat was, he did have his uses then did Rick teaching her to fish. To give Ari tons of credit he didn't throw a man strop when she caught more fish than him, though both Ari and Alf did come across slightly sexist with their initial attitude. Just because she comes across a bit of a toff that proved she isn't. Wonder what Amber would think about Princess doing something so humble as fishing from a little row boat. Cracking idea her returning the favour, well sort of as she didn't actually cook the fish, serving it as what looked a lovely meal. Ari really scrubs up well. Alf, honestly, Ryder had only just walked through the door so of course he hadn't heard about Bella's dad. Sounds like she was doing a Ryder by going to TAFE which is why he missed her the first time. I hope it will be a on screen meeting up, it does lose something when it happens off screen and she has to properly comfort him about Evan. A very exclusive club for the three of them, as Nik agreed not the best club to be in but hey it is a club. I still can't see Nik as being in his mid 20's. Ryder did agree he would have regretted not going to Evan's funeral, the tribute went well and Evan's pals did fill Ryder in what Evan was like when he was younger - too much info sometimes - according to Ryder. Imo Marilyn did the right thing by leaving Ryder, Roo and Alf alone to talk about Evan, it was a family thing, and despite what Alf keeps insisting she isn't, well not at that particular time. I agree Red, Alf thinks he is being really helpful and repaying back Maz for all the kind things she has done, but I think in her eyes she feels she is going backwards - living in someone else's house as a guest - however much she will be wanted and how many times she is told she can stay as long as she likes - it is not her home. Of course, Maz, being Maz, would never say that out loud she wouldn't want to offend or upset anyone. Alf, lad, you need to stop mollycoddling her and help her find a place of her own. Maz is no longer the young woman she was - not being nasty there, Marilyn is what late 40's early 50's - and she must feel at odds at being treated as a lost waif. Know what you mean about the food shopping, be a lot of good healthy stuff coming in, did she get the milk, seemed plenty later. Going back a bit to Maz and John's talk the other day in the Surf Club, quite sad but I'm glad they did, it's clear they both still care for each other and they'll always be there for each other when needed but sadly they won't get back what they had before the siege.
  16. Knee jerk reaction from Bella about doing a runner, though Colby's solution doesn't sit well with them. He will be in the right place to find things out even if he can't be involved in the investigation though when has that stopped any cop sticking his/her nose in. No further checks, yet, to confirm it was Ross then, just going by the paperwork - should do dental checks, DNA before informing the family in this case Bella and Colby, he could have been a much loved dad/stepdad. Plus no mention how long he'd been in the grave, a pathologist would need to do an autopsy before that was established, all a bit sloppy imo. Still a shock for Bella now it's actually out in the open and the others don't know what he was really like. Colby reckoned he could handle it but he still looked pretty shaken when he was going over Ross's details. Dean's understandably panicked because of him returning to the body when he was having his hallucinations when he was taking those drugs, Colby was right though as the body was in the open any evidence after all this time would be lost/spoilt. As long as they can all manage to keep their cool, hopefully, not that I'm condoning murder, the police will look at Ross's other enemies. I like how Nik was there for Bella, something else in common both their dads dying only a year ago and by being shot, he was a bit put out when Ziggy called him but understood once he knew why she'd cancelled. Really good to see Ari and Nik getting on so well. I wasn't aware Mac knew much about Ross apart from what Dean had told her so yes I agree with Amber's reaction, she didn't know anything about him or what he was really like. As for what she said to Bella she doesn't know what went down a year ago, glad we had the 'reminder'. Some rather raunchy goings on in the pool with Ari and Mac wonder the water didn't start boiling. Very awkward for Tane who couldn't not look, Nik was only doing what Tane would have but then he realised Tane did like Mac. Had a sudden thought about Angelo - btw wasn't he fired from the police? - what his reaction will be when he finds out, as he surely will, that Colby and Dean are ex River Boys? He did have his own dealings with them when Brax and Heath were in charge. He and Brax were partners in Angelo's together let's not forget.
  17. Thanks Red, I wasn't sure about Roo what with her comings and goings. You are never going to be a Colby fan are you Red? Bella, it appears, didn't know about what occurred that night, well she wouldn't she was only a kid but blames herself for it when no way was it. She was telling Amber how it was from her side and a good question what would Amber have done in Colby's position, yes it was a very slim chance Colby could have rescued Bella but he had to take it. Amber is never going to forgive him but she has accepted why he did what he did. Dean, Ziggy and Willow were certainly surprised when she arrived with Colby and Bella. I've wondered that about Amber and her capacity to bounce back so quick from a heavy night out, not just the occasional one, but every night, maybe she's become hardened to it. Still a risk though seeing as some of her patients may be more vulnerable than John. Another 'it's a small town, so we are going to bump into each other' comment. She can be discreet as we saw when she noticed John and Marilyn needed to have a quite talk. I think it needed to be said, they do still care for each other that was obvious, but I think something happened to Marilyn inside when she was caught up in the siege, John tired his best to help her through it but it wasn't enough. But as Irene said she'll know when she is on the right path again, she'll get a sign. In the same way that Maz likes to look after people Alf likes to take charge, hence his insisting she move in with him, Roo and Ryder and as Maz doesn't like upsetting people she lets him. Even when/if she finds a place to rent she'll not want to upset them by saying she's moving out so they won't thinks she's ungrateful. John is getting better, criticising Alf's ability to run the place without hm. Warning bells should have started ringing the way it was going so good for Dean, Colby and Bella. Ziggy gets her divorce certificate, still can't get my head around they get a certificate in Australia, all we get is a degree absolute, so her and Dean were making plans to go on surfing comps working around her job at the garage, he can promote the board shop and classes. Bella is in a really good place, not only being with Nik but her and Colby are good too. All about to celebrate Ziggy's divorce, sans drunken dancing. But then there is that phone call from Yabby Creek cop shop asking Colby and Bella to go in right away. Sgt Cooper, what's happened to McCarthy, has to break the news, not Angelo as I previously thought, that they have found Ross' body and I had forgotten Dean and Colby buried it in the woods. I'm guessing they did other checks to make sure it was him and didn't just rely on the premise because they found a driving licence with the body it was his and didn't belong to someone else. Bella and Colby did well to act suitably shocked.
  18. Good to see Alf back and giving us an update on the funeral and what Ryder and Roo are up to, arranging a tribute do for Evan sounds right, it'll give Ryder more chance to get to know his dad's friends. OK after hearing that conversation Mac didn't really have much choice but to tell Ari what had been going on - or rather not going on - better that than Amber gleefully telling him nor him overhearing others talking about it. She was as honest with Ari as she could be as regards her 'feelings' for Tane considering she's not sure of them herself. Mac was right in a way her and Ari had started off as casual and neither of them have suggested to the other to make it a more serious relationship. So after listening to good advice about fighting for him she told Ari it was him she wanted, maybe then her crush was a good thing as it helped her decide which Parata brother she did want to be with. What's a mic - oh you mean a mike. Nikau just doesn't come across as someone who is supposed to be in his mid 20's, 21 is definitely more like it which is what I've read he is on another source. It would also make sense the way Ari and Tane treat him as well as Gemma did, OK I'll let that go, mum's mostly still treat their grown up offspring as kids. It was the way Colby addressed him too when talking about the hI-jack , implying he wasn't much younger when he had his car incident so made the choice, rightly or wrongly to let it go. There seems to be a phrase creeping into a lot of soaps - the "Don't make me choose" one - Bella being the latest one to use it. Colby does have some say, the flat is his so can decide who he wants in it, never mind that Bella is 18, but I'm glad he decided to trust her judgement but not without giving that old age warning to Nik not to hurt her. Marilyn, to be fair to her, did keep it quite she had left the marital home, Alf learnt that from John, and was staying in the motel. It was Alf himself who decided she should move into his house, is she going to have Leah's old room? Talking of whom, wasn't her moving into Alf's meant to be temporary but turned into years, now she's moved into the Morgan's, seems a long time since she lived in her own place. That was quite a change of direction with that last scene of the police finding Ross' body, what prompted that - was the site where he was buried being excavated as a building plot and the digger disturbed his remains? No spoiler, as we saw him in the trailer, Angelo has returned and who is now a detective. We also saw him deliver the 'bad' news to Colby and Bella. As far as I can recall the only people who would remember him from last time is Alf, Irene, Marilyn and Leah. Have I missed anyone? Of course the discovery is going have repercussions for at least four folk in the bay. I must have blinked and missed Bella and Irene being in the same place.
  19. It's no wonder nowadays that guys get accused of inappropriate behaviour when girls like Amber are giving them mixed messages - "it's OK for me to feel you up and rub my body up against you but don't dare touch me". Was it done so Tane would step in and 'defend' her? A lot of pushing and shoving between Mac and Amber! Bit of cliche with Willow saying "It's Amber, that's the way she's always been". She's not a teenager anymore and OK she has a responsible job but Willow has managed to tone her behaviour down while still having fun. Mac has resisted temptation, so far, in that she hasn't followed up on her crush/lust. I think she doesn't really want to go there, it's just the excitement of the thought of it and if Tane did make a move she'd back off. Amusing the way Ziggy explained to Dean on how she got a black eye, caught a punch meant for Mac. Neither of them did a very good job of dodging Ari's perfectly reasonable questions, just aroused his interest in why they were being so odd around him. Then of course he overhears that conversation. Someone mentioned Tane being 'with' Mac, Willow, Amber and Ziggy at the club, but he wasn't, he just happened to turn up at the same place. My own error spotted - Ziggy hadn't just twigged about Mac's crush - Dean had already told her. Pretty sure I heard Mac tell Tane to go home earlier - and we all know why - but he was still there later when they had their chat. Perhaps that clip of Ryder having fun and a laugh was to tie in with Bella finding out he had gone to his dad's funeral and she admitted she had no idea Evan had even died, it was that same day after all, though it was short notice Ryder had gone to the funeral, he only decided that morning. Nice that her and Nik rang Ryder, even if it was a one sided conversation. Might be splitting hairs but Ziggy is older than Nikau even if it is only by a year. The three years between him and Bella isn't as much of an issue than it would be if she was younger but she is 18 so an adult. There were six years between Ziggy and Brody. Some don't but I like Nik and Bella together, they both seem so happy in each other's company, she's relaxed because she can trust him not to overstep the boundary and he just likes being with her - she called him my boyfriend. That was beautiful Nik explaining the Maori traditions and their belief in the gods of the sea, sky and earth and how his dad used to take him fishing and followed the tradition of throwing the first fish back. Bella kept her experiences with Ross vague about from the learning to use a cross bow to kill game. She nearly used it to kill Colby when they first saw each other again! Maybe Ari was being over cautious but at least Nik didn't jump down his throat which he would have done a few months ago. Bella is, as said before, an adult now and even in fact instigated the evening knowing Dean would be out, Colby would be at work and Ziggy had crashed out for the night, so In fact technically they wouldn't be alone. Tane is the Maori god of forests and birds.
  20. Just what is it that Amber has against Mac, is it just the fact she's got her own business and had a different upbringing to them? Is Amber assuming daddy brought the business for Mac, which he did, but not in the conventional way. Mac is really rubbish about concealing her feelings towards Tane, Amber has now noticed it, but she is a smart cookie, Willow and Ziggy both seem to have twigged too. I was thinking when Amber was trying to fix Willow up with a bloke in the club she doesn't know about her change of sexual preference. Not that she needed to but at least now Willow has filled Amber in it'll stop her trying to fix her up with random blokes. What is driving Amber to act so wild when she's out on the town, she was happy enough to feel that guy up but when he wanted to try it on with her she flipped so hence Tane stepping in and him getting thrown out. Have to say they all looked remarkably fresh the next day, apart from Ziggy's black eye, seeing as it was only a few hours earlier that they were leaving the club. Pretty good of Tane stepping in for Ryder at the last minute, he'd sobered up pretty quick too, shows he can be responsible. I'm guessing Ryder did leave a message for Mac, it was very short notice. Ziggy will have some clever explaining to do to Dean about why she got a black eye from Amber. Nice to get a mention of Karen, Dean seems to be visiting on a regular basis. Colby and Bella were mysteriously not at home. Justin had the luck to have had his dad with him for many years, whereas Ryder only had Even for a few weeks a month at most so Justin, although he meant well, couldn't understand. I'm glad Ryder finally revealed why he didn't want to go, at most funerals the people there are family or friends of the family and would know you and you'd know them. They wouldn't know Alf or Roo either but that's besides the point. It'll be a great chance, not ideal certainly, for Ryder to find out more about his dad when he was younger, things Evan didn't have time or maybe the inclination to tell him. The guys and gals will have plenty of tales about his dad, some amusing, some embarrassing. Leaving it to another time wouldn't be the same, as they wouldn't all be in the same place at the same time. I reckon there will be a couple of guys who knew about Ryder. Good point Slade about John not having the presence of mind to use his alarm, not only that if he has another stroke he may not be able to use it, last one affected his right side and the watch is on his left hand. No warning - unless I missed it - about there being flashing lights in yesterday's episode, I thought that was a requirement?
  21. Everyone has tried all methods to get through to Jasmine and she has, it seems to me anyway, just agreed with them to get them to shut up. Talking of which when Willow was having her rant, all Jasmine had to do as with all the calls/texts rom Irene was to have answered just one to say "I'm OK, I just need some time alone". It was Tori telling Willow what was going on that brought it home to Willow that she didn't know what the hell was going on with her house mate, though Irene could have easily filled her in. Jas' sudden out of the blue announcement she was selling the gym really got Willow bent out of shape, not surprisingly, wouldn't be just her losing her job but the rest of the staff. She certainly gave it to her with both barrels, completely ignoring Irene's pleas to wind her neck in, like others in the bay Irene has her really annoying traits at times and this was one of them. Of course Jasmine has been through a real rough time, she's lost her husband and 'lost' her baby which would have been 'her' reminder of Robbo. But as Willow reminded her, Tori has lost the father of her baby and her brother, which did give Jasmine a jolt. Could add Grace has lost her dad, though she is too young at the moment to know this. Tori can't seem to help herself approaching Jasmine, but at least this time it worked as Jasmine was in a more receptive frame of mind and agreed to the mental health plan - well for now. Was that part of her agreeing that she bring round Grace on a supervised visit? Was her doing that breaking the terms of her own AVO? Jasmine seeming so positive didn't extend as far as a decision on the gym so not surprising Willow wasn't as happy as Irene. Hence her going out on a girls night out with Amber + Ziggy and Mac which as we saw ends up getting pretty lively. Was John using the rip the plaster off quick method with getting Marilyn to go that very night? He could have let her stay one more night. Marilyn was right, as I mentioned before, about how John would cope if he was alone at night and fell. But now thanks to Amber that problem has been solved, Marilyn is on John's list of people to call should he have a fall, hence him telling her to keep the keys. Does Amber's duties include shopping for John, cooking his meals until he is stronger and more confident on his feet, salads are one thing, hot nosh another. Amber is very professional in her job but very much a party girl - I hope she is fully sober when she sees her patients the day after the night before. Good luck with trying to shake off Alf there Ryder, where do you think you got your stubbornness from? Something to do with Evan's friends wasn't it and no Justin - nothing like your experience.
  22. True that about Bella's letter and they still haven't run into each other? I really do think Colby meant well, but the meeting was too soon, I mean the same day she gets back to the bay, she would have been tired and still upset with them. All this is more about Jasmine's fixation with Grace than Jasmine being 'banned' from seeing Tori. People have, like when Ben had his breakdown, tried the softly, softly approach and the hard line approach neither of which seems to be working. Justin didn't appear to have much faith in Tori being strong enough to resist Jasmine's pleas/manipulations. Tori may be accused of being too soft on Jas but Justin is the opposite he goes at it like a bull at a gate. Colby was going to be what, mediator?, a neutral bystander? Anyways it was Tori more than Jasmine who told him to go. What did Irene expect would have happened if they were left alone? I'm on the other side, I felt it was Jasmine who was blocking everything Tori suggested, no I won't go for counselling unless you tell me I can see Grace at some point along the way, which was the point of the AVO. Tori stood her ground though, Jasmine needs to work everything through first, not enter counselling thinking, I'll do a couple then see Grace as a treat, then do some more etc. To me that would do more harm than good. oWe all know Jasmine would never hurt Grace but it was her delusion she was Grace's mum and Tori was a bad mum that was worrying. Was it me or was there out of kilter camera work every time we saw Jasmine? To give Justin credit he didn't say "I told you so" to Tori when she said things didn't go well with Jas. Ok she's leaving - or that is what we saw her say, selling Robbo's business to boot, throwing Willow out of a job, but it is not going to solve anything running away, she's thinking she will be able to leave things behind but they'll follow her wherever she goes and she won't have the back up she's got now. You know the only not getting their knickers in a twist over this is Grace - she's happy being with whoever is looking after her - far too young to have understood Jas' "I'm your mummy" chats. For a seemingly independent woman Marilyn can come across as very immature. Her main problem - imo - is she needs to have someone to look after in some way,when she hasn't got that to do she feels at a loss. I can't remember if she has ever lived on her own or always shared with others but she has been travelling a lot, even became a different person at one time. I missed the reference to Quinn was that who Roo was on the phone to when Marilyn dropped in? Good to see Alf's come back for Ryder, I dare say Martha nudged him a bit there.
  23. Sam Frost has proved she can indeed act, her storylines certainly haven't been light hearted. Not many reality stars/singers make the transition. I've with you about the 'crazy' label someone has stuck on Jasmine. I think, maybe, they are doing it just to wind us up and we should ignore it.
  24. Oops I must have missed that/those scenes. Good spot Dan F - would be a very strange thing for any teenager - well most, mustn't generalise - not to have their phone on them. Jasmine couldn't hide out at the Shaw's forever and it could be argued the longer she left it the harder it would be to face the truth and get some help. No explanation why Jasmine did wrong by leaving the bay thus breaking some term of her AVO. She couldn't have got much further away from Tori and Grace. Isn't the mentioned court appearance if she breaks the terms? Wonder what this 'idea' of Tori's is? Amber isn't 'his' carer so a bit cheeky of John to expect her to give her day off up just like that, a bit of a shock to his system falling like that but luckily he wasn't badly hurt, probably just bruised and he was able to joke about it, be a shock though. Does raise the point though if Marilyn does move out like he has asked her to what about the times he's there alone when Amber isn't here, OK for a few hours and especially overnight what then? He could slip out of bed, knock himself out, get trapped and not be found till next day. Would the front door be left unlocked in case? Sad it's come to this, Marilyn does still care for John and in his way he cares for her. Good job Roo is there for Marilyn, though she has Ryder to think about, Irene is rather tied up with worrying about Jasmine.
  25. From what I have gathered with Jasmine being at Wendy and Ian's is she hasn't talked about anything that happened at home, certainly not mentioned Grace which to me means she is total denial about what led her to flee the bay which isn't good for her or her state of mind and It worried Wendy. She's even talking about relocating to the Shaw's but she can't keep what happened buried for ever, it'll blow up and could spoil what she has with them as she's not being honest with them and they deserve that. Wendy and Ian have been very patient so far and not questioned her why she is there, they must be thinking all sorts. If Jasmine had just once answered one of Irene's calls maybe her and Colby wouldn't have gone galloping out to the Shaw's. All Jas needed to say was she was OK, taking some time out and she'd be back when she was ready, Irene would have accepted that. Now Irene and Colby have turned up, it's put Jasmine on the spot, she got all defensive and Wendy and Ian are getting to get a garbled recap of everything that has happened. Tori playing the martyr was totally uncalled for, I get she feels guilty for serving the AVO, but it was Jasmine's actions that brought it about and she had been very patient, a lot more patient than a lot of people would have been, Justin does veer to the complete opposite but yes I punched the air when he told Tori she was on her own. Glad they made it up later though. Definitely not a good idea that she went to the farm to talk to Jasmine, would she have been breaking the law defying her own AVO and was Jasmine breaking some condition of it by leaving the bay? I imagine it would have stated Jasmine not approach Tori and Grace but if she was out of the bay there would be no danger of that would there. Btw Colby seems to have forgotten about his crusade against the Parata's. Ryder did have a bloody good aim and he was bloody lucky to find it so quick and that it was undamaged. Just checked after what you 'said' Red, because I wasn't sure but Evan was left handed so no problem with the guitar, loved the plaque Evan had added to it. Different people react in different ways, he had a cry with Roo and will again, but he feels getting on with his course is what he needs to do at the moment. He knows she'll be there for him as well Gramps when he returns. It did sound like Evan had a peaceful end and yes Ryder knew it was coming but still a shock when it actually happens. Of course Ryder should let Quinn know, she and Evan may not have spoken until recently, but they shared him, once he's told her it's down to her what she decides to do. As 'we' never knew Phil we'll never know what happened there. She does seem a little afraid of Amber, but it's because she's so direct and takes no prisoners and being bossed about in your home isn't nice for anyone. At least Marilyn is back on baby sitting duties regarding Grace which will give her some focus. She does need to decide what to do now she'll have more time on her hands.
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