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I thought it was OOC, because Kyle was all about family.Why would he sacrifice, not seeing his family Ricky and co, For a women he barley knew? It was OCC imo. And the character deserves a better exit story imo. I thought KYle was great, and tbh the only Braxton I liked. I thought his role was very neccessary. As he was the only character in the clan. Who diddn't seem to want any part of the crime world. Heath latches onto Bianca. But Kyle never seemed suited to that crime, crash, bang world.

I liked her just for the fact, like Elly. She's not some new meat for a River Boy, or a guy with Tatoos to date haha. Show needs a new younger teen crowd. So hope this grows to that potential.

Raechelle is absoloutely Gorgeous. And she is doing a fine job. IT did not bother me and I Am not sure most people who watch, care if they were acted previousley by an actor, like 15 odd years ago. But that is jmo. It is changing history to suit storyline. They did that a bit, but I Don't think it is detrimental. The VJ casting was absurd.

Well most people who watch currently, may not know Olivia was a previous character, (I diddn't, so it did not effect my interpretation of the character). So it may not make a difference for some. Most people I see, who watch, are not bothered by the past, as maybe they weren't watching to be aware of the character back way when. I think Raechelle is doing a great job anyway. I mean this show is known to recast. It is no where near as bad as the VJ re casting.

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I only liked Phoebe really when she was with Kyle, she seemed likeable with Kyle. Until she went all I well hook up with Ash, because he is more fun and casual. Then acted like she cared when it was convinient. I can see Kyle returning maybe for Phoebe, That is if Nic ever returns. Show seems to be moving on from the Braxton Era.

Yeah Natalie and Tamara were only worth as the Braxtons Girlfriends, when that ended. They were surplus to Requirements. I like Phoebe, but I think she is in the same vein. Like Ricky, beyond dating Brody or Justin, pretty much Brax and Kyle 2.0. What worth does she have? I think H and A need to stop casting really potential Guest Characters as full time regulars. But it well probably continue.

To be fair in life not every one is a saint, not everyone is perfect. You have those Phoebe characters. They are fun, they are reckless, they even lack morals. I am not excusing Phoebe's behaviour. Just saying personally I See no problem with Phoebe's characterization technically. I Think Phoebe is hot lol, and she is fun to watch. But that is just me. She is entering Mary Louise terriotory. But I guess that is a major gripe with this show atm. SO maybe people are projecting them onto Phoebe.

Rosie? Was she the one who was raped? Sorry fuzzy memory. I actually thought they were setting up Sasha and Natalie lol, for a second. But as for Sasha and Rosie. I never felt any sign they were heading their. I liked Rosie though, they keep loosing potentially great characters, like Skye recently.

haha fair enough, thats a reasonable gripe with a character. Guess alot of ppl find Hunter bland too. I never thought Matt was bland. Thought for a time he stood out as kinda interesting. But guess they never gave the character time.

I have always liked Matt. Don't really get the hate he gets around here. He has not really done anything to warrent it imo. Alec Snow is a very good actor. Liked the stuff with Ash in the Garage. But since Kass left, he has kinda being floating around haha. I Wonder does he leave to be with Maddy? Probbably unlikely.

I guess if your biast to certain characters, and biast againgst certain characters ahem. You won't like how they delt with Oscar, Josh, Andy e.t.c. I mean get you like a character. But not everyone needs a happy ending all the time. Oscar dieing while maybe one could argue, deserved better. ITs life end of day, sometimes people just die lol. Obviousley Brax who is the complete opposite of a saint, actually got a happy ending. Which is so funny he is not even doing it ironically. He could of walked up to Alf shoot him in the face, and he would still be sipping pinatas on a beach in Hawaii. Typical Mary Louise character. I Think with Andy and Josh they tried to take advantage of the popularity of the Braxtons. But it just diddn't geel authentic most of the time. I liked Josh, Andy was awful when he first came but he got better, and was tolerable before he left. As far as exit stories go, its not bad, going on the run. It is not original, but its not Romeo bad. I thought Maddy abandoning Matt after all they went through was a ****ty exit story. But this one is not so bad. They seem to have done a clean out of alot of the characters. Their was talk they were going to get rid of alot of characters, and bring in new ones. I actually prefered the characters who have al been written out tbh. I miss Maddy, yes I went their :D. But this show has been on for 25 off years. Characters come and go. And through all of it Alf is the only one constant :D.

Thats fine. But essentially we went to jail for no reason. Brax never had to suffer the consequences Kyle did. But of course I get what your saying. That first time he left he should of stayed gone. Much better exit story.

If it was true to character. Kyle wouldn't of been so selfish. To not see the people he loves for 13 odd years. Over some random women. Im sorry but if it was true to character. He wouldn't be going to jail for some random. And actually fight to be their for the ppl who love him. Horrible Horrible exit. But that's jmo.

All or Nothing? Wheres the All in this? Ironically it was for nothing. Kyle threw away hs entire future over a women he barley knows. A woman by the way who has barley showed any gratitude. Just because she's pretty. Worst of all Phoebee acting like she cares now. Your the one true love of my life. Oh yeah when you had options. You choose Ash. Why they broke Up them I hv no idea. Kyle and Phoebee showed more chemistry in that scene. Then Phoebee and Ash ever showed. Worst part is the worst Braxtons. Heath and Brax imo. Get off Scot free for quite honestly doing worser things. Kyles loyalty was his downfalll. While Brax is off on a beach sipping Panatas lol. And Heath is playing happy families. Kyle gets 13 years behind bars for his troubles. When Kyle looked down at his Al or Nothing tatoo. And was nearly tearing up. I nearly did too lol. Damn it Nic you are one outstanding actor. Your too good for this show. I thought the Romeo exit story was bad. At least that was within character. Kyles was worst imo. As he is supposed to be the smart one! I knew he wasn't getting a happy ending tho.

She changed the moment they took off her glasses lol. Also recently in.the long run THEYve got some pair ups right. Matt and Maddy for eg. But thinking Vj and Skye seem more suited.

Sorry i really dialike Isla. She is so bad for Nic and Kyle haha. Im not going to say Samantha Jade cant act. Because lets be honest who am i too judge haha. But i dislike her acting with this character. I just feel no sympathy for her character. And aint the audience suspossed too? Anyway. Prefer Kyle stray away from his past or protecting Women who are just ultimately going to bring him down. And integrate him in the community. Ultimatley though Kyle well be rememberd like Matt maybe. Great character, with great potential. But not given the required time or effort. At least the latter seems happy. Kyle though, i dont see a happy ending unfortunatley.

I see your point. But when recently has Matt ridiculed Oscar. Sure he gives him a hard time every now and then. But that's what mates do. I feel your right. But I also feel you and others arE selectively focusing on their bad characteristics. Not their good stuff. I.don't agree its primarily a teenage relationship based on sex. Ive seen a predominantly adult relationship. With two very similar ppl. But very supportive relationship. Yes they have shallow traits. Yes THEY can be immature. But stuff like Matt supporting Maddy with the cancer thing. Etc. I.thought it was nice. So.whether or not Matt and Maddy have reverted to type or not. Look.I.dont have a good enough argument lol. What can I say it is what it is. Imo im watching them. And I think majority are over exaggerating their fighting, sex, bickering etc. I.see two very.similar personalities. So they clash. But theirs also love their. Im clearly in minority here. I just dontthink it is as extreme as ppl make out. And im not going to put Oscar on a pedestal. Like majority.say wHat you want assassinated his character. Etc. He still cheated. And personally I found maturing Maddy boring. With Matt yes shes backsled a tad. But I still the same Maddy with Oscar. Matt.and Maddy are still the same lovely pair THEY wrre as Friends. I guess I saw them becoming a couple in 2014. So their pair up to me was inevitable. I don't agree they bring the worst in.each other. In some ways they bring the best out of each other. And the worst. I dunno I guess I see a couple. Who are entering adult hood. Two ppl who are like a perfect storm. Its not perfect. THEY do bring the worst out of each other in so many ways. I can't disagree as I agree lol. But then when they do get it right. I think THEY just have an understanding. Like the whole two toothbrush thing. So I.think ppl are being unfair imo. I also dont think Oscar is innocent at all. He used MDdy just as much. I think Matt is more sophisticated then Oscar. And more romantic then Oscar. Have Matt and Maddy reverted to their type? Whether or not I agree with your assement of their type is. Not really. I don't see it as a teenage fling. Two ppl in a long term relationship. Who happen to have great sexual chemistry lol. You disagree. Great I dont Care. Be boring if we all thought the same. Besides it seems to.be long term. So.clearly they do more then just.colitis lol.

I was wondering why alot here are so anti Matt and Maddy haha. So here's my theory. Eta: think why the most anti matt and maddy fans are so negative. Is THEY believe THEY were a plot device to end Maddy and Oscar. Also shippers lol. Like after all ThAt character development. Or that built up progression.with them. THEY threw it all out the Window just so Matt and Maddy can do it lol. But those ppl need to understand. Mattady (im lazy lol) was irregardless to Oscar and Maddy ending. Their.was a slow decay even before Matts feelings. Teen Group still established. So clearly right call. So whoever Maddy dated had nothing to do with how she felt about Matt or breaking up with Oscar. Big influence sure but not the biggest deciding factor, just natural progression. I mean I even remember when Maddy and Oscar had a mutual break up. THEY both agreed what THEY had was gone. And it was time to move on. Teenage relationships dont last thats the point. But I dont like how they asssinsated Oscars character in the process. But that's the only issue I have. I truley believe that is ThE main reason why some cannot accept it wss the right decision to end Maddy and Oscar imo. And Matt and Maddy was the right decision to pair them up. Maddy hasent degressed. Just shes with someone who challenges her. Jmo.

Hmm yeah. Kyle had great potential. But he just feels like hes gliding on his Brothers plane. Like his character is an extension of the clan. No different with bringing in females to just date river boys. Tamara, Natalie. Should of integrated him in the community more. Fine hes still close with Ricky. But I feel Ricky uses him for a babysitter lol. Kyle should interact with other characters. Kyle and Chris be funny haha.

Tbh they got a few pair ups wrong. I really would like to see Kyle in a story line where hes smiling lol. I think Billie understands him. Vice versa. Vj? Come on hes a kid. Vj.And Skye. And Billie and Kyle imo. Kyle needs love in his life. I hate if he ends up in Jail. While that other Braxton runs off into the sunset scott free...

What's wrong with the good guy with the heart of gold? I miss you Dex heh.

I personally think Matt and Maddy clash and fight so much. As tptb are showing how similar their personalities are. Personally I thought that was an issue with Maddy and Oscar. And okay I know im in minority here. But I always saw Matt and Maddy as an unlikely pair up since 2014. Simply with their Skateboarder Princess dynamic. I am disappointed slightly with their storyline. But point is Maddy is entering adulthood now. So I believe her and Matt are more suited. Jmo. So it feels more an adult relationship. Then any of her previous ones. I understand why ppl are not happy with this pair up. And feel sorry for Oscar. Although he still hangs out with Matt sooo. But it feels ppl are focusing on the bad stuff. Not the good stuff. Like their nice moments. Like I remember Matt supporting Maddy with Hannah getting Cancer. Way he fed her with Food lol. And told her to make the most of each day. Thought ThAt was sweet from Matt. And I hope they explore their interests in Music. So I can accept most dont like them together. But I do.

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