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....... it makes me so happy..... Nicole and Aden were never love, its was always lust and Aden being your typical bad boy lusted after a girl he couldn't have... and do you really think with Belle looming over them and the fact that in my opinion Nicole will sleep with anything that wants her make them believe its love. By the same token, with Belle looming over them do you really think Aden would go into a new relationship if it was based on nothing but lust?Whether you accept that they're in love or not, Aden and Nicole clearly care about each other and have done for a long time, which makes me believe there's a far stronger foundation to them than just wanting to get into each other's pants. We have to wait and see what happens.
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But, do you really want Aden to be with That makes no sense to me at all. At least he knows Nicole. And I think its really strange and maybe sad that you seem to think that it is good that Hmm, I have always thought that the producers made the Adelle relationship just to be about Belle, and now it seems like you think that it was only Belle who counted in that relationship too. Well, I think that Aden is a very good character on his own (much better than Belle was!!!) and that is the only reason I don't want him to be with anyone. I wished they could have focused on Aden now. The boys seem to always to become almost just a shadow of their former self when they are in a relationship, because the writers just seem to focus on the girls and see the storylines from their point of view or just focus on the girl's storylines alone. Tony and Rachel are a very good example too. We never see Tony have a storyline on his own (but Rachel has sometimes), and when he is around, all he have to do is to support her.
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You have no idea what antartic cold is Tons of snow And it's freezing but it's one of those beautiful clear winter nights and the sky is all white. It's like -2 though! -2 C? Not that cold .... It's a bit milder here than it has been for a week or so, - 12 tonight (and last week about four hours drivingn (north) from where I live it was -37 degrees! And it was -22 degrees here (its not so cold as the other place normally) But I would have liked to have some of your snow. Far too little here, just about 20 cm. But it is very beautiful though, because it has been cold since last time it snowed and the snow is still laying on the trees.
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It's snowing here as well. It is indeed lovely to look at but I'm glad I don't have to go out. For now, it's still white. In a day or two, it'll be just a grayish slippery substance and that, I hate. cold?? Here were I am, in the southern part of Norway (inland), is it -22 degrees celsius tonight! Very cold! And far too little snow. Just around 10 cm... And that's far too little, especially with this cold. But the forecast says more snow this weekend.
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I do agree with you Adellejefferiesx, that the writers have destroyed Aden a lot of times, but not the times you are referring to. When Aden slept with that girl only a week after Belles death it just shows how broken he really was - and especially with his history. I see his actions like he didn't care about himself anymore and his actions was more like a punishment to himself, rather than moving on, his history has also proven that sex can be some kind of punishment and something very uncofortable. He certainly wasn't enjoing it - and we saw that, Belle said in the letter that he should move on so that lead to this action. When it comes to destroying the character I think it was much worse that he suddenly slept with Nicole while he had broken up with Belle without loving her. He was in right state of mind that time. And also sleeping with Belle just 5 episodes (1 week) after he broke down and told Belle about the abuse was just wrong, and they started to destroy the storyline from there. Under one week with councelling do not solve the problem.. well it lead (together with Larrys confession) to his breakdown, but then again his storyline was destroyed even more by the focus on Belle and her feelings about Adens breakdown and not Adens feelings. Two weeks in a clinic after something like that and then a terrible trial which was again much more about Belle and her feelings, and Angelo is just an insult to real life victims and persons who have suffered from a mental breakdown. So Aden moving on with Nicole after only 3 months after Belles death isn't ruining his storyline more than it already has been. But then again, as much I didn't like Belle with Aden just because Belle got the focus all the time, I don't like this coupling either, I think they are worse than Aden and belle were. I think that Aden and Belle had more of the same depth (maybe because the actors were more alike) than Aden and Nicole. And I also think its strange that a lot of people think that Aden wasn't kind to Belle and just used her as a emotional punching bag sometimes, because as I have mentioned before Belle was the one who got the attention and Aden was just her doormat (after the breakdown)- and had to support her all the time. But with Nicole it is excactly the opposite. I think Aden has been very unfair to Nicole a lot of times, and she has tried to support him a lot but we haven't seen him doing that to her. And when they are "having fun" I think it looks like to 10 year olds who are playing around, rather than a young adult couple! So when I am saying that Aden moving on only 3 months after Belle died doesn't ruing his character even more, I am thinking in general, I think it is ruining his character because he get together with Nicole. He is much more childish around her than he used to be. I would have liked them to put Aden with an older character (played by an older actress) before he left, if they had to put him in a new relationship. I have a feeling that he won't end up with Nicole, but that is a discussion for the spoiler tread.... And I think that the writers should have ended his family storyline better (instead of putting him in a new love storyline), and brought back his father or if that wasn't possible, they could have brought one of his brothers to the Bay. If he couldn't forgive his father, his brothers were going through excactly the same as him and they could have rebuild a good brother-relationship. And that would have been a good ending to Adens storyline, and give it a little justice after all. and this is not a start to an argument either... just my opinion....
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Robert Robertson - Socratis Otto
jodlebirger replied to dees189227's topic in Character/Actor Discussion
yeah i see your point, he's just too boring Robert Robertson won't never be made a regular just because he doesn't fit in. A character like that just work for a short period. If he was a regular they had to change him over time. I think he was funny sometimes, he was very good in that storyline about Grants murder. I think his jokes would have become old and just irritating after a while. He was made for that particular storyline. I don't think his style would have fit in other storylines. A lot of people thought he was great with Leah, but he lied to her... who was he really? If he had stayed he would have been more explored and I think that would have destroyed the character. There have been a lot of unique characters who have been changed over time, ex. Geoff (where have his beliefs gone?) and Annie was about to change into a typical Summerbay girl by the time she left. -
Oliver Phillips - Oliver Davis
jodlebirger replied to I love music's topic in Character/Actor Discussion
Kane did not kidnap Ollie! He was the father, and Kirsty did not have full custody of the child. She never applied for that, so she had no right to keep Ollie for herself. As the matter of fact, by doing that, she did kidnap Ollie too. I think that Kirstys departure was as good as it could be.. Because the storyline about Kirsty and Kane was wrong from the beginning. To be with your sisters rapist is really bad. And I think it was wrong of the writers to do that storyline because it seemed like an insult to all the rape victims out there. BUT, Kane did deserve a second chance in life too, and he did it very well until he was blamed for his fathers crimes. I think it was very sad that they did that storyline, because it seems like if you are bad/do something wrong, just how hard you try to be good you are not going to suceed in life. You always have to pay for what you once did and its not worth giving people a second chance in life because they're going to stuff it up anyway, that is a really bad message to send out to the world too. There are a lot of young people in the world who have had a wrong start to life and because of that end up on the wrong side of the law or just behave badly. But sometimes people can change.... I know that a bad childhood is not an excuse to behave badly but unfortunately when children dont get the support their need, or are growing up with alcohol, crimes, violence and so on then it is very easy to end up doing wrong things. But with some support a lot of those children/teens can change, and it is worth giving people a second chance in life. But at least some good things did happened at least in this storyline; Kirsty was going to reunite with her family. And she needed a second chance from her family. (and as usual, my English is far from good, but I hope you do understand) -
It's not that easy to bring back old characters. Remember they are played by real people who have moved on. Most of them have other jobs, moved to USA or other places. In real life old friends would have come back for a funeral, but it's not that easy to bring old characters back. I think that it didn't matter that much in Belles case.., her mum (it was really nice that Holly/Amanda could come back) and Irene who was her foster mum were there. It was worse at Beths funeral, where 3 of her kids were missing (Scott, Robbie and Henry).
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yeah, but why do everybody want Rachel to have PND for months (Harry was actually born some time before Belle died)??? I think that they could have given him some more time before he was ready to move on, well his recovery should have started earlier and the prosess should have been more slow... well sometimes when people are grieving they do choose bad ways to dealing with it... a lot of times when you are not able to deal with something, your behaviour isn't good at all and shutting people out is not unrealistic, its very common. And also in character for Aden, as he has not been a person who easily confide in others about his thoughts and feelings. I think it was good to se him sitting home sad and alone, but the drinking and the girl and the drinking was unessesary - they took his actions too far!! Abalone racket was Ok too, he had nothing to do and was desperate to have something to distract him from his grief. But they usually do this to grieving characters, as an example - it happened to Tony too (he had sex with some randoms) But as I have said in an another post, he could have been walking around to places and thinking about Belle (flashbacks). Now as it has passed two months since she died he could have been talking about her to Nicole or to others. No, I don't want Aden to sit in a corner for the rest of his days on the show, but he could had another storylines than love interests.. Bring back Larry or a brother... And when they did do the drinking scenes they (writers) could have brought up his father. Morag could have mentioned him, or Nicole.... because this was actually the same thing as Larry did... drown his sorrow for his wife in alcohol (and as a consequence his sons were sexually abused). That would have rounded Adens character more, and it could have been a wake up call that he needed.
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Thank you, at least someone do agree with me!! And he went from hell to heaven (if you understand what I mean) far too quickly. From grieving in his dead wifes bed to suddenly after an electric shock to become all smiles and joking. Some behaviour that is not extreme (as jumping in bed with someone) would have been good! for example he could have been remembering the times with her, walking along the beach and having flashbacks, talking to someone that he really misses Belle and so on... It doesn't have to be so extremely self-distructive actions.... I think that is what people are tired of, Characters in grief who are shutting others out, and sleeping with randoms.. We have seen that before with Tony. Grieving isn't about being self destructive all the time... After that fight with Geoff which ended in the water, it was so unrealistic that he didn't mention the reason why he got so angry.. He could have been talking to Geoff about how much he really missses Belle and also try to get Geoff to understand. It is different to loose a friend (yes a friend, Belle was never Geoffs sister!!)from loosing a wife/girlfriend. And Aden could have been understanding that the others also miss Belle... Everyone has a right to grieve, that is different from stop living... It takes some time to get over things..
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I think he is too old for Nicole. She is 18 and should have been focusing on her school work and her future. He is in the late 20's or something, he used to have a wife and a kid so he must be around that age.... And he need to sort himself out, and so does she... they are at two different levels..
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I actually agree with you here.It's better not to raise serious issues at all than to just trivialise them, which I think they did by taking Aden's problems to extremes and then having him get over them pretty much straightaway...twice. yepp, yes they did!!
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I think I must have been watching another show as well.Belle's home life might not have been anywhere near as bad as Aden's but suggesting it was idyllic is just ridiculous.She was brought up by parents who didn't care about her and only took her in because they were paid to.When she ran away, they went through the motions of reporting her missing but didn't actually want her back once they were told she was safe.Her father only came to town to squeeze more money out of Kitty and, I may be wrong here and I'm open to correction, I seem to remember he actually tried to pay Irene to keep her out of their hair.Then he tried to leave town without seeing Belle and accidentally bumped into her. She actually seemed pleased to see him, thinking he was finally showing an interest in her, only to find herself disappointed again. I saw this last year because we are to years behind up here in North, but I just remember that they said goodbye to each other as friends, he respected her choices and said that he cared about her. And I can't remember that they paid Irene... They just had very strict views on how a child was supposed to be raised, theres no wrong in that. But of course it is awful to feel that your parents don't understand you, and they want you to be something that you can't be.
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Well, I was expecting disagreements(and I'd like to add, everyone else who replied to my posts in this one and the other one, I completely respect your opinions and don't want to start an argument here)but I wasn't expecting this.I don't see how you can possibly say Aden was Belle's doormat.Aden used Belle as a verbal punchbag if he was having a bad day and worse she let him.I don't think there was anything comparable from her.She lied to him about the drugs and about her cancer:It was wrong and it was selfish but the one thing it wasn't was personal, she lied to everyone.He forgave her, maybe a bit too quickly and easily but then I think she forgave him a bit too quickly and easily sometimes.I guess maybe that's what people in love do.You brought up Aden taking her hostage so I'll comment on that as briefly as I can:You can call it a breakdown and try to make Aden out to be the victim, indeed that's what Belle ended up doing, but he knew what he was doing, he knew he was hurting Belle, he knew she didn't deserve it and he still decided that if that was what he had to do to get what he probably saw as justice then that's what he'd do.Whether she understood his reasons or not, Belle getting back with Aden after that seems only slightly more plausible than if Nicole took Trey back now. I'm glad you too our replies as a mere discussion and what you said above ^^^... RR1 in your post I couldn't have said ti any better myself! Of course I don't want to start an argument either. But I have read your posts for about more than a year now RR1 and sometimes they have really upset me and irritate me, but in a good way, they are getting me engaged/more interested to the show! And it is interesting to read others views on the storylines. Aden yes he had a breakdown, it was a sudden change in his mind, he wasn't at the moment able to see an another way to get rid of his pain. But I have to say that I think that sometimes the writers take their storylines too far, just for the exitement without actually go in to such a serious matter with more sensivity. The Charlie/Ruby-storyline, Melody, Trey etc are other examples of that. And yes I have to say that of course aden did use Belle as a punching bag, especially in the beginning, but she actually let him do it... She was the manipulator in this relationship, because most of the storylines were hers... And its not always the girl who's the victim.... I think its easy for us to take the girls side in the storylines, because most of us are females.
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Alf is a background characters these days and have been that for years. But he is such an important charachter. He conntect so many of the others together that the show will be totally different the day when Ray/Alf leaves. And the show needs a character like this. A character who does normally thing, who know the most people in the bay, someone that the others turn to when they need some advice. Actually if they don't have characters like this, everything would have been a totally mess about evilness, stalkers, crimes and disasters. You need som normality to identify the unormal. Otherwise, everything would have been a total disaster! And I don't think that every characters/actors need stalker-storylines to become popular and to show their acting skills. What about an everyday problem/issue??
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I think the actor is too old for the character. But how old is this character meant to be? If he still was only 17, shouldnt he have been at school?? What is it with all these kids who are not going to shcool?? Geoff quit school, so did Ric, what kind of signals do they give? Well as someone said, it's not the first time that an older person is potraying a teenager. But it was better these days, when you could se who the young teenagers were, and who the older ones were. And they had different storylines which suited their age. Now every teen character are acting like they are adults. It's confusing, and we could have had better and a lot of different storylines if the characters were acting like normal kids/teenagers/young adults are doing at the age they are supposed to be.
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when I watched episodes with Nicoles mum in, I actually understand why Nicole act like she does. And she is so insecure and in need for some comfirmation of who she is, that leads her to drastic actions. But I don't think Aden is the right one for her. their backgrounds are a bit colliding. I really hope they don't get toghether because that will destroy their characthers.
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I have copyed this from my post in the Belle tread because I feel that this also belong to this discussion: "When Belle first got together with Aden she was ashamed of her, and he did forgive her for that. Well, he wasn't excactly kind to her when she wanted to be intimate, but he finally told her the reason. After that Belle was nice to Aden for about two weeks, then he had his breakdown. Yes, he put her through some difficult time when he took her and Rachel as hostages. I don't excuse his actions, but he didn't plan to do it, he actually had a breakdown. Belle had all right to feel unsure about Aden after this, but she should have seeked some support from her friends and from Irene. When Aden came out of the clinic she put him through a lot of tests. She gave him mixed signals. As the matter of fact, he was the one who had suffered from a breakdown not her, and in a situation like that you need stability and clear signals from others. Yes she did had the reason not to trust him anymore, but then she should have stayed away from him and not give him the mixed signals that she gave. He was still vulnerable and unstable. It felt that she wanted both Angelo and Aden, the manipulating Belle was in action again. when she finally took him back, Aden became Belles doormat and not the other way around. He had to go through months supporting her with the consequenses of her actions towards the developement site (something that the police should have been investigating alone), after that it was months with her lying to him about the drugs. And everybody expected him to do so, because he owed her so much...well.... And finally she lied to him about her illness for weeks, and wanted to fool him into marriage. And she justified herself by saying it was because she loved him so much. What??? what about when he finally found out, what would he feel. She revealed the main reason for her lies on her wedding day when she was talking to Nicole. She said that she deserved to have a happy wedding day (she didn't mention what Aden deserved). It was like he had to justify himself all the time, everything became a test for him. She just tricked him around her finger (do you say that in English??) For me Belle was the most bad young girl through all times on the show. Manipulating and extremely self sentered. A lot of people see aden and belle as the usual "Bad boy meets good girl" thing, but for me they were two very troubled persons who met each other, but troubled in different ways. " --- I think that Aden loved Belle more than she loved him. It wasn't a ideal relationship but at least it was interesting. No relationship on H&A are perfect especially not the younger ones. We had Ric and Mathilda - he fooled a lot around with other girls, and she had a relationship with Lucas, and finally he was cheating on her with an older woman and she got pregnant. Ric has a similarity with Aden, that they both have a anger problem. But Ric was actually worse...He got into the fight club, Aden is worse when it comes to choice of words, he is much more verbally. Cassie was with a lot of troubled men etc. And I'm not looking forward to what the writers are going to do with young innocent Annie....
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well, when I am reading your posts about Aden and Belle I get the feeling that you have watched an another show. Because the Belle you have seen is very different from the Belle I have been watching. When Belle first came to the Bay she had ran away from her foster parent who se thought were too strict. She was not abused, she actually had a good home and they loved her, but they lived in a way that Belle couldn't.. Her foster father came to the Bay and they talked to each other and he respected her thoughts and actions. After that Belle always did things that the other "nicer" girls in summerbay didn't, she was more driven to things that are more forbidden... She fell in love with bad boys, she always seemed to live a little bit on the edge. She was manipulating (who hasn't forgotten what she did to Lucas? or Flynn??), and she wanted the other one to do what she wanted them to. Yes, Drew slept with her mother (what a terrible thing to do..), but she betrayed Lucas. She cheated on her exam. By the end of Drew and Belles realtionship she got a job at the newspaper and she didn't (first) care about what was right or wrong she just wrote what she want to, she just cared about her story, and not what was the truth...And she hurt a lot of people. She painted Sally as a villain in the paper, and that actually was the first step for Sally to realise that she had to move away from the bay. And finally she got together with Aden. At first she was ashamed of him, and he did forgive her for that. Well, he wasn't excactly kind to her when she wanted to be intimate, but he finally told her the reason. After that Belle was nice to Aden for about two weeks, then he had his breakdown. Yes, he put her through some difficult time when he took her and Rachel as hostages. I don't excuse his actions, but he didn't plan to do it, he actually had a breakdown. Belle had all right to feel unsure about Aden after this, but she should have seeked some support from her friends and from Irene. When Aden came out of the clinic she put him through a lot of tests. She gave him mixed signals. As the matter of fact, he was the one who had suffered from a breakdown not her, and in a situation like that you need stability and clear signals from others. Yes she did had the reason not to trust him anymore, but then she should have stayed away from him and not give him the mixed signals that she gave. He was still vulnerable and unstable. It felt that she wanted both Angelo and Aden, the manipulating Belle was in action again. when she finally took him back, Aden became Belles doormat and not the other way around. He had to go through months supporting her with the consequenses of her actions towards the developement site (something that the police should have been investigating alone), after that it was months with her lying to him about the drugs. And everybody expected him to do so, because he owed her so much...well.... And finally she lied to him about her illness for weeks, and wanted to fool him into marriage. And she justified herself by saying it was because she loved him so much. What??? what about when he finally found out, what would he feel. She revealed the main reason for her lies on her wedding day when she was talking to Nicole. She said that she deserved to have a happy wedding day (she didn't mention what Aden deserved). It was like he had to justify himself all the time, everything became a test for him. She just tricked him around her finger (do you say that in English??) For me Belle was the most bad young girl through all times on the show. Manipulating and extremely self sentered. A lot of people see aden and belle as the usual "Bad boy meets good girl" thing, but for me they were two very troubled persons who met each other, but troubled in different ways.
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I find it weird that everything that this couple is going through is going with normal-life speed when everything that other characthers are going through is rushed and finished with very quickly... Rachel was pregnant for 9 months - it happens during 9 months on screen (normally on Tv this goes much faster), and now we have that post natal stress disorder.... yes, its only a couple months ago since Harry was born, and of course in real life that is not long time since a child is born and it takes time for a new mother to deal with things. But during this time we have had a death (yes, Belle died after Harry was born) and her husband has finished his grieving. And people were complaining that his grief went on for too long. We have had a lot of examples during H&A time on screen that people suddenly recovers from grief, illness very quickly. But just a few are complaining about Rachel and that she is still depressive. I saw a comment (in the spoiler section I think) that Post natal stress order is a illness is a very awful condition/illness and is not something you suddenly recovers from. But is grief, illness, madness, innsanity, breakdowns etc less important??? dont't get me wrong, I know that Post Natal Stress disorder is very serious, I have friends who have been suffering from that (I'm 38) and it is a serious issue, but so are the others I have listed up here. Well, but I think that sometimes it's good that problems on tv don't last that long as it does in the real life, it is to depressing to watch over a long period of time. So thats the reason I think that now it's time for Rachel to get over this. When the writers give a lot of screen time to some issues and not others, it give the public/viewers the idea of which issues that are important and which that aren't. I think that is wrong. But I do think it is very interesting that they are bringing up all those issues that can happen in real life, also post natal stress disorder! Hm... Well.. and I hope that this couple starts communicating soon. We never see them talking about the troubles they have. For example we never saw them talking about what happened when Tony tried to kill Angelo. Rachel was mad at him, and in the next episode everything was fine. And they don't have less screentime than the others either, I think the reason is that the writers give them much more time with a problem than the others. I think that the main reason is that the writers want us to see Rachel and Tony as the perfect happy, adult couple. But the problem is that we never see them dealing with their issues. Because that means more fights and arguments and discussions.... That is the main reason why I don't like this couple, despite I'm almost as old as Tony (so I should probably been able to relate to them, but I don't) I actually liked Tony much more with Beth, and as single too... But it is good to have a real family on the show! But I think we should have had an another one too, a family with older kids. Why did the Walkers leave?? And I also find it strange, that Tony never talks about Lucas anymore. When he was struggling with the idea of becoming a father again, he yelled at Rachel that this baby won't have any brothers... well... what about Lucas?? He could mention him sometimes....
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Leah was kind of in love with Miles pretty quickly wasn't she? I know nothing happened there but she still moved on emotionally. I found the Nicole and Aden scene a bit odd last night. It was almost as is they were both laughing at Nicole's pathetic life lately. I don't know. Leah had feelings for Miles a long time ago, but it was too early for her after Dans death. She couldn't deal with a new romance. I really hope that Aden and Nicole don't get together. They are better as friends. Mainly because I think it is great to have a friendship like that on the show (they are like brother and sister), but also I think that Aden needs someone a bit older than Nicole. She is still at shcool. She has grown a lot over the last year or so, but still... I think that they will be not good together in a relationship. Nicole still thinks that sex solves everything. And when she is down, she want to get comfort through sex. that is not what Aden is about when you are thinking about his history. And he has a problem with his temper.. Nicole is more of a fun loving girl, Aden is more a serious type. They are best as friends. If Aden is going to have a girlfriend when he still is on the show, it should be with someone new. But I hope the producers/writers have other storylines for him. It is a lot with this character that they can dig into. And sometimes it's good to have characters with storylines that are not related to relationships (girlfriend/boyfriend relationship). the Aden and Nicole scene was ok..., it good to see them talking, but I do agree with you that they were laughing at Nicoles pathetic life, especially she did. But I do think that it was a bitter laugh, it wasnt happy laughing from either of them. And I felt like she did pretend like she was sad for it, but really isn't. She smiled when Aden laid his arm on her shoulder, he couldn't see that. Was that a sign that she was over her difficult time and could laugh at it now, or did she try to make Aden feel sorry for her...
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Leah Patterson/Baker - Ada Nicodemou
jodlebirger replied to Skykat's topic in Character/Actor Discussion
Leah is such a wonderful charachter!! she is so normal, and not over the top. I actually like that she is doing normal things, going to work, talking to people, being their friend, beeing a good mother to VJ... I really don't hope that she'll become overdramatic and whining. I really hope that she will continue to get normal storylines, not being followed by stalkers, not being raped or other very dramatic stuff. It is so good to have some kind of normality between all the drama on the show. But I hope that Leah will find some romance of course. She deserves that. I don't know if I like this Robertson or not... Maybe she should have been with someone else. Here in Norway she is still happy with Dan. I think that they were a great couple despite their ups and downs. Everybody has ups and downs in a marriage. I really hope she will find happiness with a great, kind character! -
Yes, he did sell her drugs!!! After the rock concert, and yes she already was an addict but it doesn't excause it. He actually sold her drugs several times. And he had a lot of drug dealers who came to the bay because of him. Of course the citizens of Summer Bay don't want that. And if someone came to a funeral to a friend of mine, or some of my relatives and do what Liam did I really would have reacted the same as Aden and the others did. When you are grieving you are really fragile and sensible emotionally. It wasn't wrong of him to show up there, but when he came too late - he interupted the whole thing and he was high!! I think that they are potraying that bit very realistic. And they all know that Liam sold drugs to teenagers. If someone did that to shcool kids in my neighbourhood I would have been really sceptical to that person too. Liam and Belle did comfort each other during the rehab time, but Liam never took his addiction seriously, well not seriously enough... And we saw the pills in Liams car after Belles funeral.
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You are entitled to mean what you want but I don't agree with you!! A lot of people complain about Adens behaviour all the time, no matter what the reason for his behaviour is. We didn't see Aden apoligise to Nicole but a lot on Home and away do happens off screen. For example when Rachel thought that Tony was cheating with Belinda (after Jacks death) because he got lot of mms from her. then he showed Rachel the boat (Jacks boat that Tony had been working on) and then everything was fine. But we never got an explanation of who Belinda was. And after Tony tried to kill Angelo when rachel was at the hospital we never saw him really apoligised to her and we never saw her forgiving her. (I hope you understand my terrible English). But noone did complain about that. When Aden had his breakdown a lot of people "hated" him for what he did to Belle, Rachel and his father. And that was potrayed like a breakdown, like he lost his mind for a period of time, and all he wanted was to get rid of his pain. And his father was a key to that. But when Tony almost killed angelo we did not see many complains about that. And It was more of a sudden change in behaviour because he couldn't handle his pain anymore. Tony, he even planned it for a long time. Aden never planned to do what he did. charlie electrocuted the person who raped her long long time ago. It wasn't a breakdown (they didn't play it that way), but it was a person who reacted in panic. Every of this actions can be explained. Only Aden got punished for what he did. And a lot of you did think that he should have got to prison. I don't excuse what Aden did, but what the other did was just as bad and maybe even worse (if you have a look at their state of mind when they did it). Maybe the producers did a mistake and did not show enough of Adens comunity service, and maybe he should have got a lot of councelling after he left the clinic. But what about Charlie and tony??? tony had lost his son, he thinks that Angelo is his killer, charlie was raped and Aden was abused as a child (actually raped a lot of times). Do tony and charlie have better reasons for doing what they did? Yes, aden is very moody sometimes, but he has been through a lot since he came to the show. What about Rachel, she is moody... Yes she has post natal stress disorder, and that is a decease... But she was moody before she got that child too. Geoff is very moody... He had a girfriend but couldn't sleep with her because of his belief but after he broke up with her he hooked up with someone else and slept with her very soon. When Aden and Geoff were on the trawler, I think that geoff really crossed the line by telling aden what he did. He complained that Aden felt sorry for himself and did not think about the others who were grieving too, and he yelled at him that he need to accept that Belle was dead. But who was the one who left the school because he didn't see any reason to go on because Belle had died. And who ran away from it all together with Ruby. It seems like everyone thought that was ok, Belle was like a sister to Geoff... But Aden, as Belles boyfriend and husband, and he shouldn't have the right to grieve?? what??? People were complaining about his behaviour and grieving and told him to move on the day after his wife was buried!!! Morag and Nicole said he should move on. Three days after, Geoff ran away and that was ok... Hmmm.... And I haven't forgotten that geoff never was punished for killing a lot of sheep when he was at his grandfathers farm. Everyone excused him for that... Hmmm... Well of course, Aden should't have hit Liam, because violence does not solve anything!! But it's very easy for me to understand his feelings about Liam. He almost lost Belle because of Liam. He sold drugs to her.... and he ruined her funeral. Liam is still a drug dealer, and is not to be trusted. On the positive side, I think it's very good to see Nicole and Aden talk to each other again. I hope we are going to see a lot of their friendship in the future. Sorry about my very long post!
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Sid Walker - Robert Mammone
jodlebirger replied to suzannelgnz's topic in Character/Actor Discussion
I was really sad to see Sid go. I think he was a good addition to the show. The actor is very good. Well, I would have liked the whole Walker family to stay in the bay. It would have been good for the show, to have a whole family.