2025 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[Medea Fleecestealer]

So Lacey's in the opening credits now; guess that means she's going to be around for a while.  

[Red Ranger 1]

I must admit I've got out of the habit after 17 years of checking to see if someone's been added to the opening titles, I've just been looking to see where they are in the cast list. I noticed straightaway on Monday that Lacey was now listed with the main cast, but it's only now I've looked back and checked that I see she was actually added to the opening titles yesterday!

Anyway, aside from John celebrating the River Boys getting locked up (well...about six of them, anyway, unless the rest got found with the bodyguards), we're onto other matters.In normal circumstances, it might have been a bit early for Mackenzie to worry about not having got pregnant yet, but after she explained the background to Levi, he realised there might be cause for concern after all. She must have been stringing him along even longer than Cash did John: She tells him there's something he doesn't know when they're walking through a park area, then when we cut back to them, they're on the beach and she's still going "I should have told you this before" instead of spitting it out!

So my guess about Debra was right then! After Eden has been threatening just about everyone in town. It was definitely a jolt to her to realise that her parents can actually be grown-ups about this, although she's still insisting on casting Jimmy in the worst light possible. John angling to be celebrant was pleasingly endearing. It's nice that everyone's fond of him and realises his good intentions even though he irritates them at times.

I'm guessing Debra had good intentions but she seems to have done a number on Abby, her confidence is absolutely shattered after that character assassination. Any relief I had that she wasn't blaming Mali had dissipated by that final scene, so I guess he needs to step up now.

[H&Alover]

I suppose as they are new opening titles Lacey would be easily spotted. 

Bit naughty of Cash teasing John like he did, of course they would choose him. Come on, stop keeping us in suspenders give us a date  for the Wedding. 

Eden said exactly what I did that if it had been Cash informing Jimmy about the engagement it would have been the shortest engagement  in SB's history.  Seems we were both right about Deb spilling the beans about Eden. If Deb can 'forgive' Jimmy why can't Eden.  We don't know what when on in their marriage and parents do hide things from their kids.  It happened apparently  during their crisis meeting over Abbey.   Probably along the lines of what shall we do about her?   Deb does seem to be overpowering from what Abbey was saying and it has knocked her new found confidence.  She is the youngest and maybe Deb took all her frustrations out on her after Eden left and that she had to be a good girl.

Was she really just really going to leave town without telling Mali?  Was she going back to mum or taking off somewhere else? 

Bit of  a triple whammy for Levi finding out about Mac's ectopic pregnancy resulting in  her having one of her fallopian tubes removed and that the father was Tane's brother.  I did question before why wouldn't he have seen that when he looked at her medical records when he did the op on her for her heart.   Guess it wouldn't be easy to tell the guy you're hoping to have children with that apart from having a heart condition there is something else, a BIG something else. It did show though that some secrets in the bay can be kept.  

One good thing to come out of yesterday's episode - no Leah. 

 

Edited July 3 by H&Alover

[Red Ranger 1]

A bit of creative tension between Remi and Kirby then.I kind of got where Kirby was coming from with not feeling comfortable spending more money than she had to, and Remi got it too once Bree managed to spell it out to him. I guess we'll have to wait and see how Remi's new plan works: Is the idea for him to stay completely clear of the recording and just sign the invoices? We did get a brief explanation, but Theo and Sonny being absent from the flat all day because they're not in the episode did feel a bit contrived.

Another reference to Liz Shaw then, last seen as Harper's obstetrician. Mackenzie's kind of opened a pandora's box here, so I guess she and Levi need to have answers.

Abby went closer to leaving than I expected, but I'm glad Mali managed to talk her round in the end and show her that her life in Summer Bay is worth keeping. I wasn't expecting Debra to appear but I would have liked some sort of reference to how she reacted to it. Instead, I suspect we won't see Mali and Abby again until next week, by which time the momentum will have been lost.

ETA: As an aside, the actor playing the clobbered bodyguard actually did play one of Cash's bodyguard colleagues last year, but he had a different character name so it's probably not the same one.

[stevester55]

Wow two nights in a row we've had the theme song back yippy 

[H&Alover]

I could see it from Kirby's point of view, she has always been independent and Remi being a friend, an old friend, paying for everything would make her feel awkward about the money he's spending by going over and over the recordings.  Another thing when they recorded as Lyrik they were working together as friends towards the same goal, but now he's got his producer hat on so coming at it from a  different prospective.  A new producer wouldn't be as  involved emotionally. Bree could see it from an entirely different angle, listening to it as a 'normal'  person would and was able to talk sense into both of them.  She did resist banging their heads together.   I'd forgotten Remi had paid off her uni  debt.  

Bree shouldn't have been that surprised her place was a mess, there had been two guys living in it even if it was just a short time.     when she said she was leaving it.  Was it just me or did it look tidier later which would have meant Kirby cleaned up?

Some big decisions for Levi, but mostly Mac, to make as to whether they should have fertility tests.  It may seemed vague what Liz Shaw said but she's right it does come down to individual cases, Mac does have one fallopian tube so not impossible for her to get pregnant.  Another thing about Levi not knowing she'd lost one but wouldn't he have seen the scar when he examined her before her op?  I can see why Mac is scared it could be bad news but Levi was wearing his doctors head by saying the sooner they find out the sooner they can sort out where to go next.  Love the 'they' btw. 

Levi thought he and Mac were coming home and just having a quite evening - well that plan went out of the window didn't it?   He was playing referee with Abby and Mali debating arguing about her - or rather Deb's - decision about her going home so Deb could 'look' after her.  Mali, obvs, was more hurt, confused why she felt she couldn't talk to him about it before she went.  Levi did his own intervention on why she should stay. He's seen how far she's come, yes OK she's had back up from Levi, Mac and  Mali but a lot of it she did by herself.  Deb, from what I could gather was doing a real job on Abbey, making her doubt herself and that she needed mum to look after her and make all the decisions.  If she had doubts, which she did, she made the right choice to stay. Mali got it because he's the youngest too and his family weren't happy when he moved  to the  bay and started up on his own.  Abby did make a relevant point her living with her brother, his girlfriend and her own boyfriend isn't good either. Will we be seeing Mali and Abby moving into a van at the caravan park?  They are both earning and it'd be nearer to the Surf Club where they both work so less reliant on Levi or Mac for lifts. 

As we saw Leah is back today and  she is NOT happy.   Theo read my mind about staying at Bree's - no mention of Lacey though.

That was  brief appearance by Alf. 

[Red Ranger 1]

Alf's episode count this week:Three.

Well, Remi and Kirby's spat ended up being a bit of a storm in a teacup and it feels like they've already had this conversation once.I found myself leaning more towards Remi's point of view even if he didn't handle it well at times.Kirby's claim that Remi's never had to worry about money didn't really hold true: A year ago, he was supporting himself and paying his contribution to the household by picking up whatever music gig he could manage. And did she forget when their electricity got cut off? He might come from a rich background, but he's never liked accepting handouts any more than she does.

Leah seemed to have lost all touch of reality here: She's moved from blaming Lacey for everything that's happened with Theo to blaming anyone even tangentially involved, including Justin and Bree. At least Bree's got a couple of new flatmates out of all this: Is Lacey intending to stay at a backpacker's indefinitely? Anyway, a bit of friendly advice from Alf and Marilyn, and some bluntness from Justin, and Leah's at least approaching Theo in a calm manner, but I guess we'll see if having to accept Lacey is a step too far.

I liked that spectacularly awkward meeting between Sonny and Dana, especially Archie giving Sonny a totally-not-impressed look.

[pembie]

Reached the end of the River Boy comedy tonight 

What made me laugh was how useless the bodyguards turned out to be they got distracted by a large tree or was it a branch for big muscled men they really did struggle with it Forget it and keep a eye on the people you are supposed to be protecting 

The River boys also let Lacey go I thought she would be one of their main targets but I guessed they needed someone to help Cash keep the story moving I’m not sure we really needed Super Tane with his roundhouses kicks nothing can save him for me now his still boring 

Anything else shame Roo choose against having Eliza back I thought 

Edited July 5 by pembie

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Yeah, most sensible thing for them to do was just drive around the tree trunk; there was plenty of room either side of the road to get by it.  But hey, not dramatic enough for H&A.  

Edited July 5 by Medea Fleecestealer

[H&Alover]

Well Archie was a lot more grown up than Leah, at least he wasn't throwing  a tantrum and chucking his toys out of his buggy.  The diners in the Diner had a right eye/earful with her shouting at Bree, that news will be going round the bay in five minutes flat, hardly good for business I would have thought.  Shame Irene wasn't there to shut her down.  Bree handled it very well, just calmly told her that is how it was and walked out.  

I did have to  at Alf saying "Don't mention the war", so deadpan.   

Finally Justin took a stand and told Leah how it was and that she'd lose Theo for good if she didn't back  his decision to be at Bree's.  He may have come across as a wimp but he does have to live with her and didn't want more hassle than needed.  A very tentative conversation between Theo and Leah, her invitation to dinner at hers and Justin's then Theo dropping the bombshell only if Lacey is invited. 

Bree does seem to have lost her personal space now both Theo and Sonny have decided to stay and mayhap Lacey?   Wondered where she was. How are they going to pay for rent/food, I don't know if Justin is paying Theo while  he's off sick, Sonny doesn't have a job nor does Lacey. Love how Bree handles Sonny and threatening that'd he'd been out of there so fast his head would spin if he didn't stop nicking 'her' food. 

Justin had another problem to deal with  a sin Remi/Kirby which he wasn't aware of but he had had other things on his mind.  Give Sonny a / for getting Remi and Kirby together so they could talk - again.   They did seem to be going round and round in circles, her worried about Remi spending his money but as he said it's his money so he can spend how he wants.  She like him were both independent and didn't like taking handouts so alike in that respect. But now he can afford to, he knows what Kirby is capable of  a new producer wouldn't, and they would need to be broken in. Plus of course as he said  he wouldn't  be out of pocket should it be a hit. He's paying her back from when she supported him back in the day.

Funny now that had got settled how Remi, Bree and Kirby ganged up on Sonny to go and see Dana as it was so obvious he really likes her.  He was acting like a teenager approaching the girl he had a crush on to ask her for  a date.    Archie was all happy and smiling before but as soon as Sonny leaned over him he went all glum so a good touch of clever camerawork there. 

clever camerawork there.   Not sure if Dana was trying to convince Harper she was over Sonny or herself, but as we saw they do get  together.