Repeating Year 12 & Under qualified head teachers

[Spinach]

7 hours ago, j.laur5 said:

I think Matt was only kept down because Spencer left the show. I think Matt replaced Spencer's storylines and I think Ash was brought in to replace Matt storylines. 

I think Matt was supposed to grow closer to the Braxtons. In 2014 it looked like a close friendship was growing beetween Matt and Kyle. 

But I don’t think Matt would have had Ash's storylines as I still think Matt  would hook up with Charlotte and maybe Kyle could be the one to know Brax was still alive. 

But Spencer left and Matt repeated a year to replace Spencer in the teen group. 

I think Spencer and Maddy would get back together in 2015 had Spencer stayed in 2015. 

I thought Spencer was axed?

Also, Matt repeating seemed intentional given it tied into him and Sasha growing apart.

[j.laur5]

2 hours ago, Spinach said:

I thought Spencer was axed?

Also, Matt repeating seemed intentional given it tied into him and Sasha growing apart.

Yes he was axed and I think it was because they decided to keep Matt at school. 

No, they were going to break up anyway as Sasha wanted to move to Sydney to go to uni and Matt didn't want to leave . 

[Spinach]

^Yes, Sasha wanted to go to Sydney, but Matt still being in high school highlighted the growing gap in maturity/ambition between them.

[j.laur5]

5 hours ago, Spinach said:

^Yes, Sasha wanted to go to Sydney, but Matt still being in high school highlighted the growing gap in maturity/ambition between them.

But they still could have kept Spencer and had Matt and Sasha break up still with Matt leaving school.

[16770052]

Don't get me started on the unrealistic portrayal of Australian schools. 

- You can't become a principal after a few years of teaching. Sorry Sally, Blanca, Zac etc. Even Deputy principals and Assistant Principals need years of experience. Their best chance would be stage 4 co-ordinator or English co-ordinator etc. When Gina passed away, they would have gotten the most senior staff member to relieve as principal until they could get a qualified one from elsewhere. Plus Zac and Bianca were pretty bad and unprofessional teachers who would never be considered for senior roles.

- Very few students repeat year 12. You would either go into another uni or tafe course if your marks weren't good enough, choose another employment direction or possibly repeat year 12 at tafe. There's also backup plans which students here don't seem to have.

- Students very rarely are allowed to leave school grounds at break times. With all the safety issues nowadays and I can't imagine how many students would be late to class or not come back at all. Then all the bullying with no teachers around!

- Most teachers don't work at the school of their choice. Permanent positions are hard to get which usually requires travelling across Sydney. Many teachers also have to start as casuals as it is very hard for new teachers to secure permanent work.

- Likewise trainee teachers don't often get to choose the school they do their training at. Some universities also don't let trainee teachers work at schools where they have relationships with the principal or certain staff members - Evie being assessed by her uncle would never be allowed! Trainee teachers also need to be supervised by their mentor at ALL TIMES. Evie and Roo seemed to teach by themselves, and Maggie letting Roo replace a sick teacher is illegal!

- I have a lot of respect for teachers and HSC students. Teachers are very busy outside of school hours yet Maggie never seems to be doing anything! She is meant to be running a school. Year 12 students also shouldn't have any time for dramas.

[voyager50]

20 hours ago, 16770052 said:

Don't get me started on the unrealistic portrayal of Australian schools. 

- You can't become a principal after a few years of teaching. Sorry Sally, Blanca, Zac etc. Even Deputy principals and Assistant Principals need years of experience. Their best chance would be stage 4 co-ordinator or English co-ordinator etc. When Gina passed away, they would have gotten the most senior staff member to relieve as principal until they could get a qualified one from elsewhere. Plus Zac and Bianca were pretty bad and unprofessional teachers who would never be considered for senior roles.

- Very few students repeat year 12. You would either go into another uni or tafe course if your marks weren't good enough, choose another employment direction or possibly repeat year 12 at tafe. There's also backup plans which students here don't seem to have.

- Students very rarely are allowed to leave school grounds at break times. With all the safety issues nowadays and I can't imagine how many students would be late to class or not come back at all. Then all the bullying with no teachers around!

- Most teachers don't work at the school of their choice. Permanent positions are hard to get which usually requires travelling across Sydney. Many teachers also have to start as casuals as it is very hard for new teachers to secure permanent work.

- Likewise trainee teachers don't often get to choose the school they do their training at. Some universities also don't let trainee teachers work at schools where they have relationships with the principal or certain staff members - Evie being assessed by her uncle would never be allowed! Trainee teachers also need to be supervised by their mentor at ALL TIMES. Evie and Roo seemed to teach by themselves, and Maggie letting Roo replace a sick teacher is illegal!

- I have a lot of respect for teachers and HSC students. Teachers are very busy outside of school hours yet Maggie never seems to be doing anything! She is meant to be running a school. Year 12 students also shouldn't have any time for dramas.

Wow - it's even worse than I though!  - thanks for the insight into Ausie schools.

[Homeandawayfan.]

The portrayal of Aussie schools in the shows early years was more realistic. In 1988, Don was still deputy principal but the same year he became principal after Bertram retired, and Don had 23 years of teaching. In 1988 Don was 43 years old so he was the right age to become a principal. He was about 20 when he started teaching.

[Red Ranger 1]

By the time Sally became principal she was 28 (so not exactly early 20s) and had been deputy for over four years under three different principals, so it kind of felt right from a viewer's perspective.But yeah, her being made acting head and then deputy after only a couple of years teaching was ridiculous.I actually wasn't impressed with Gina, who somehow got the job when she seemed to have very little relevant experience, gave a terrible interview and had applied for another post anyway, and then was horribly unprofessional and showed massive favouritism to anyone who was a regular.Bianca and Zac seemed to get the job because they were regulars: It's hard to believe in the early years Don actually had to step down when the school got expanded and he didn't have the right qualifications to be principal of a school that large.I thought Greg Snelgrove was one of the best principals in recent years, actually keeping the students and staff in line and pointing out silly things that had gone unquestioned for years like pupils wearing the wrong uniform, so it's a shame he didn't last long.With Maggie, I at least give them credit for appointing someone from outside but that's probably only because there weren't any other regulars working there when Zac left...

The show has way way too many pupils repeating Year 12.It's like they have no idea what to do with teenage characters once they leave school so they keep them there as long as possible, then keep them there a bit more, then 9 times out of 10 they write them out within a year of leaving.It's a failing of a lot of shows with a high proportion of high school age characters:Neighbours is nearly as bad and Grange Hill went through a period of keeping characters in sixth form for three or four years in order to keep them around.(Mind you, having been in sixth form at a British school in the 90s, that's actually pretty accurate...)

[harrietjames]

Given Ziggy is 19, Maggie is 40ish, the close enough to the same age as Don becoming principal with 15 or 20 years in the job.

 

They need to start the kids earlier - if their regular teens are 15, then they can do year 10, 11 and 12 (3 yr contract) then go off to uni, work, jail or a gap year as their exit story line. The downside (for them) would be that teen couples would have to wait to "be together" until they are legal. Not sure that is a problem -  they used to be able to right non-romance story lines. Having said that I'm not sure why having the same type of story lines doesn't seem to work as well when it's NDU not SBH